That punishment for crimes committed by women is not seen as equal in the eyes of the law. Women will almost always get less time for the same crime if committed by a man.
Women doing fucking anything being highlighted as standing out or obscure.
YouTube has recommended me a lot of HBO Chernobyl clips. In the series there’s this one female character who serves as a stand-in for a bunch of scientists irl who brought up concerns regarding how the cleanup of the plant was being handled.
Of course, tons of the comments were not-so-inconspicuously feeling the need to point out that this character isn’t a real person and that she’s only here for DEI because of wokeness. Meanwhile all the other inaccuracies regarding the MALE characters weren’t chalked up to that same stuff and were simply regarded as odd choices or errors that just exist on their own.
If that stand-in character was male nobody would have batted an eye. God forbid a confident person with potentially very important info to share be female apparently
One that has affected me the most as a mom, is the heavy societal expectation to do more than dad. I always took care of myself too ergo it affected me. People are nasty
That women cant age. They get thrown out like trash and traded up for a younger woman. But men supposedly get more handsome and desired as they get older
I heard a former coworker say this to our boss, “men cant get raped, if they don’t like it then whys their dick hard?” And he laughed awkwardly, clearly bothered. He never did anything and let it go.
As a man who was raped by a woman. I left.
I no longer work there.
Thats not how a dick works. Some dudes can get erect for no god damn reason, or out of fear or nervousness. There’s many ways a woman can rape a man and any woman who does, needs to be in prison. Same goes for men to.
But it doesn’t only go one way.
That men get to take their shirts off in public. I saw a guy who’s tits when down to his waste but he was happily outside running. If I did that I’d be arrested.
Men are always to blame if they cheat (which is 100% as it should be). They are also to blame when women cheat.
IE..My needs weren’t being met. He wasn’t there emotionally. He didn’t give me enough time. He was married to his work. He was too clingy, I needed my space. He was controlling and manipulative. He didn’t understand me like (insert name of affair partner). Her support group will back her completely using these.
I don’t know that there is a specific one but annoys me the most are the ones everyone is just cool with. The so called positive ones. It goes for all stereotypes really. It’s like that is just as much an assumption as the negative ones but you’ll casually use it no problem?
Here’s one that’s really gotten on my nerves lately:
Men talk about wanting a woman who is submissive and feminine. If she’s educated, thriving in her career, and earning a high salary she’s considered “too masculine”, “undesirable”, “a red flag”, etc.
But also: apparently women are superficial gold diggers. And we’re somehow terrible for having standards. Like GOD FORBID I want a partner that’s equally as driven, educated, and shares similar lifestyle values. 🫠
Obviously this isn’t an “all men” thing (before people want to attack me on this). But holy moly! Just speaking from personal experience and from talking with other women in a similar position, it’s definitely a real issue.
Edit: For those that are replying to my comments and sliding into my DMs, thank you for proving my point. Perhaps stop listening to Joe Rogan or Andrew Tate for dating advice.
A male babysitter or preschool teacher is a pervert or gay. I enjoy being around kids, but I once got called a perv because I grabbed a kid trying to go beyond the safety bars on a balcony at a movie theater. Since then I’ve always limited my interaction with children I’m not family with.
I try not to get rage baited on algorithm content, but I can’t help it when a man is getting physically assaulted by a woman and no one does anything, but the second he retaliates or protects himself, everybody swarms in.
Men make a big stink about a woman’s “body count” and think a woman is all sorts of negative things (trashy, dirty, used up) if she’s had more than a few sexual partners, but so many men’s biggest goal is to have sex with as many women as possible and they see men who “get” a lot of women as cool. The act is quite literally the exact same thing: they’re both having sex, but men are made cooler by it and women are made dirtier by it. It makes no sense and is just misogyny.
It’s truly caveman thinking that sees sex as an act of conquering another (instead of a mutual act of connection and pleasure between two equals): being conquered is shame worthy and conquering another is worthy of praise.
I think extremely lowly of men who see sex and women this way.
That men complain about something it’s a legitimate complaint and some action might be taken. If women complain they are upset and emotional. This is how my workplace operates.
Fighting for custody in family court. Judge and court guardian seem incapable of accepting that teen kids who ask they not be forced to stay with mom could have any reason besides dad alienating them against mom.
Truth doesn’t matter in family court. The perception of the truth is all that matters.
That it’s ok for women to wear bikinis that show the size and shape of their breasts, nipples and in many cases – labia, but men are judged for wearing speedos/swim briefs that are often less revealing.
Men should be open with their feelings because acting tough and masculine is toxic and unappealing!
Wait are your feelings are full of insecurities in social interactions. coping with trauma from abusive parents. or from not getting to live your life and grinding away?
Never mind.
We really just wanted to see you pet a kitten, or cry over a movie or something.
The way people will bend over backward to justify and excuse women’s abusive behavior, or any kind of unethical behavior for that matter, while crucifying men with no mercy for the same behavior.
The whole “man up” thing for how men are expected to react/deal with situations is frustrating. Society can punish men a lot more than it does women when one shows weakness.
How women who are tired and/or serious and/or quiet are perceived as being grumpy or being in a bad mood when a dude can literally go a whole day not smiling and saying one word, the guy cracks one joke and people think he’s hilarious and a gem to be around
That women are too emotional to lead a country (US specifically) but our current president is a spoiled brat/crybaby who acts almost exclusively on emotion
Fashionable plus-size clothing feels like it is only made for women. Above a certain size, men’s clothing looks like it is exclusively designed for dads who have given up on fashion.
women can have their women’s spaces all to themselves but women are always expected to be welcomed into and space carved out for any activity dominated by men
That the man should be the breadwinner in the house and if a woman outdoes him salary-wise, that she’s got her priorities all screwed up and that it also makes him somehow less than a man.
Also from my mother: that my (female) name appears first on my joint account with my husband
Male pdf files seem to be more vilified more than female predators. They’re equally disgusting!!! Even female accomplices of male predators. All of them, scum!!!
If mom changes diapers she does her duty, if dad does it he is dad of the year.
It’s not the worst one or the first, that came to mind. This one just pisses me off so much!
Hot contenders:
shaving and makeup, for which men are ridiculed if the do it and women if they don’t.
same with wearing clothing associated with the other gender
liking kids
compulsory military service for women, who already use career time due to pregnancies and are potentially more costly or less reliable to employ in my country
having to do the first step as a man all the time
medical studies, where women’s bodies are less studied and known
hugs and compliments
worload in relationships, where women often have more of a mental load and daily chores and men have rarer or seasonal chores, which always get a thank you, cause they don’t happen daily, while those daily chores are invisible
assumed fields of expertise
ignorance or shaming for/of natural bodies and bodily functions
how men are predetors and women know what they want if they didn’t ask for consent
how woman have inherent worth (yet are still treated like objects to strive to own a pretty one) and men are judged by what they provide
how mental health issues areshrugged off for men
how a promisvious woman is a slut, but a man is a playboy
how we tell children early on what they can and can’t do based on gender and how we literally raise them differently based on those assumptions forming them into the steretype
boys will be boys aka no accountability for bad behaviour based on gender, while girls are made to believe that a boy who treats them badly likes them aka raising submissive women
This one’s gonna get a little heavy, but Male R#pe is considered a joke. Think about how many times you’ve heard a joke about “dropping the soap” or something similar, Peepshow (a BBC show funded by my taxes) makes male r#pe a punchline source
That men shouldn’t show any emotion other than anger. The double standards are ridiculous. The fuck you mean showing emotion is “feminine”??? It’s human!
I got sexually harassed at work HR did nothing. If I had made several crude comments about how she looked, and grabbed her butt when she walked by, Id’ve been fired instantly.
Man decides to live alone with his dog, he’s shunned social norms, praised by bros and lives with ‘man’s best friend”. Women decide to live alone and have a cat she’s a mad cat woman destined to die alone because she made bad choices.
I can fold my own laundry in like 4 minutes. Every girlfriend I’ve had has closes that take easily 3x as long. Women’s clothes and stringier and tighter. I need to turn most of my gf’s clothes inside out because they got screwed up when she took them off because they’re tighter than men’s clothes. I have no idea how to fold some of the weird string strapped tank tops she has. They’re made of odd material and require more complicated wash options.
Sure she could buy loose fitting cotton tees and jeans like me, but fashion/culture would peg her as sloppy.
Aging. It’s getting better but I super hate how traditionally women are considered out to pasture over 40 while men are considered to just be hitting their stride. Will be so grateful when that shit gets evened out.
That single mom’s are judged so harshly but single dad’s get the whole “OMG, that poor man having to raise those children all alone!” Experienced this myself 🙄
The double standard of a single mother, oh she needs all the help we can give her but if it’s a single father raising a daughter he’s automatically a creep to some or he can figure it out on his own. Classes labeled “for all parents” turn away single fathers all the time because “this is a mother focused group and they aren’t comfortable practicing breast feeding techniques with a man in the room”. Doesn’t matter the dude lost his wife in labor delivering the child he’s got with him.
The one where so many female teachers that have sex with underage students don’t go to prison. While most male teachers that have sex with underage students go to prison for years.
Can’t call a women fat or make fun of her looks, but it’s fine to say a guy has a small dick, laugh at him being bald or saying things like ‘short guy energy’.
Men paying for everything when it comes to dating. This made perfect sense when women weren’t allowed to have careers to support themselves. We haven’t lived in an economy where this made sense for a while.
Paying for two of everything everywhere you go gets expensive fast. Women will complain about men wanting to just hang out at their apartment with them instead of going out on dates. I think this is a major motivating factor. You’ve made yourself an expense to be managed instead of company.
Women are expected to be the homemaker even if they work full time. Men can come home and relax with the excuse of “they’ve been working all day”. Ik some relationships are a team effort which is awesome, but not everyone.
If you have gender disappointment because you’re having a son and not a daughter is seen as reasonable but if you have gender disappointment because your having a daughter and not a son you’re seen as being completely ridiculous
And in the same breath it’s 100% acceptable and awesome to call yourself a girl mom/dad but you’re cringy and disgusting for calling yourself a boy mom/dad
There are individuals out there who honestly think it’s okay to say that a male student enjoyed their female teacher raping them but wouldn’t dare say that if it were a male teacher and female student.
When I was on FB and came across news stories about a female teacher being charged for inappropriate behavior with a minor, I always saw people in the comment section saying stuff like “Where was this teacher when I was in school?!” or “Ohhh, he’ll be alright. It was going to happen eventually.”
If you’re on FB, go find a story about a woman who sexually abused her male student; I can guarantee you you’re going to see at least 3 comments of men, yes men, saying that shit…it’s sad…absolutely no one would say stuff like this if the genders were reversed.
A woman who is with a younger man is a cougar. A man who dates a younger woman is a groomer.
Only women can be victims of sexual assault, all men want it.
Only men abuse women not the other way around.
I almost got fired cause a girl with a crush kept touching me and I told her multiple times not to. It was all on camera yet I still had to go have a sit down with hr and got a warning cause I hurt her feelings when I said that she needed to keep her hands to herself. I’m sorry if I grabbed a girl in the same way she grabbed me I’d be in jail.
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That punishment for crimes committed by women is not seen as equal in the eyes of the law. Women will almost always get less time for the same crime if committed by a man.
That a well qualified black woman wasn’t a better choice than an old, white, 34 time convicted man.
whenever a woman does something good or great, it’s seen as pure luck but if it’s a man it’s seen as hard work and a result of skill
Women can experiment sexually with other women and that’s totally cool. But if I go and fuck one goat….
Man hits a woman: Wow, what an asshole.
Woman hits a man: Huh, I wonder what he did to deserve that?
No-one has the right to hit someone else because they can’t control themselves.
Women can wear skirts/dresses to work but guys can’t wear nice slack shorts (not cargo, the shorts that look like slscks cut at the knees).
Women doing fucking anything being highlighted as standing out or obscure.
YouTube has recommended me a lot of HBO Chernobyl clips. In the series there’s this one female character who serves as a stand-in for a bunch of scientists irl who brought up concerns regarding how the cleanup of the plant was being handled.
Of course, tons of the comments were not-so-inconspicuously feeling the need to point out that this character isn’t a real person and that she’s only here for DEI because of wokeness. Meanwhile all the other inaccuracies regarding the MALE characters weren’t chalked up to that same stuff and were simply regarded as odd choices or errors that just exist on their own.
If that stand-in character was male nobody would have batted an eye. God forbid a confident person with potentially very important info to share be female apparently
Men are studs, women doing the same thing are skanky whores.
That women are expected to always be open and friendly but men are allowed to be stoic and quiet.
I’m a tired bitch; Leave me the fuck alone.
Whenever there’s a group of family or friends getting together it’s always the women who do the “heavy lifting” of the organization.
That men who enjoy being around children are pedophiles while women are motherly and loving.
Men walking around without shirts. Maybe I wanna have my tits out too. 👿
“Men should spend more time with their kids”
“Oh look at you out with your kids must be that the wife is busy huh?
Body shaming. By far.
Don’t make fun of a woman’s body!
Small penis? Going bald? Short? haha fucking loser! Good luck getting a date, maybe try improving your dating profile even though it won’t work!
Edit: In the response: Women trying to gaslight men that this doesn’t happen.
I am so tired of being interrupted and then being treated like I am the one interrupting when I just continue to talk.
I am tired of people questioning my credibility when I say something, but they immediately accept it when the exact same words are used by a dude.
Just cause I have boobs doesn’t make me incapable of doing my job. No I don’t need help, I do just fine on my own.
When some males comment to females to smile. That’s irritating. Haven’t heard of the reverse happening. Ever.
Only male nipples are suitable for public display.
One that has affected me the most as a mom, is the heavy societal expectation to do more than dad. I always took care of myself too ergo it affected me. People are nasty
That women cant age. They get thrown out like trash and traded up for a younger woman. But men supposedly get more handsome and desired as they get older
I heard a former coworker say this to our boss, “men cant get raped, if they don’t like it then whys their dick hard?” And he laughed awkwardly, clearly bothered. He never did anything and let it go.
As a man who was raped by a woman. I left.
I no longer work there.
Thats not how a dick works. Some dudes can get erect for no god damn reason, or out of fear or nervousness. There’s many ways a woman can rape a man and any woman who does, needs to be in prison. Same goes for men to.
But it doesn’t only go one way.
Edit: they’re to their.
If a woman has sex with a bunch of guys, people say she’s a slut. If a man does the exact same thing, he’s gay.
It’s totally fine when men go shirtless or have underarm hair but when women go bra less and have underarm hair it’s a huge deal
That men get to take their shirts off in public. I saw a guy who’s tits when down to his waste but he was happily outside running. If I did that I’d be arrested.
Men are always to blame if they cheat (which is 100% as it should be). They are also to blame when women cheat.
IE..My needs weren’t being met. He wasn’t there emotionally. He didn’t give me enough time. He was married to his work. He was too clingy, I needed my space. He was controlling and manipulative. He didn’t understand me like (insert name of affair partner). Her support group will back her completely using these.
Men get to be promiscuous “bachelors” and “the ladies just love him” and everyone gives them a high five.
Promiscuous women are simply looked at as “sluts” and “for the streets.”
That when it’s the woman who’s violent or abusive in a relationship it’s not as big a deal
I don’t know that there is a specific one but annoys me the most are the ones everyone is just cool with. The so called positive ones. It goes for all stereotypes really. It’s like that is just as much an assumption as the negative ones but you’ll casually use it no problem?
Here’s one that’s really gotten on my nerves lately:
Men talk about wanting a woman who is submissive and feminine. If she’s educated, thriving in her career, and earning a high salary she’s considered “too masculine”, “undesirable”, “a red flag”, etc.
But also: apparently women are superficial gold diggers. And we’re somehow terrible for having standards. Like GOD FORBID I want a partner that’s equally as driven, educated, and shares similar lifestyle values. 🫠
Obviously this isn’t an “all men” thing (before people want to attack me on this). But holy moly! Just speaking from personal experience and from talking with other women in a similar position, it’s definitely a real issue.
Edit: For those that are replying to my comments and sliding into my DMs, thank you for proving my point. Perhaps stop listening to Joe Rogan or Andrew Tate for dating advice.
Body hair is ok on men, but “unclean” on women.
A male babysitter or preschool teacher is a pervert or gay. I enjoy being around kids, but I once got called a perv because I grabbed a kid trying to go beyond the safety bars on a balcony at a movie theater. Since then I’ve always limited my interaction with children I’m not family with.
I try not to get rage baited on algorithm content, but I can’t help it when a man is getting physically assaulted by a woman and no one does anything, but the second he retaliates or protects himself, everybody swarms in.
a woman sleeps around she’s considered a slut….a guy sleeps around he’s a stud….
Men make a big stink about a woman’s “body count” and think a woman is all sorts of negative things (trashy, dirty, used up) if she’s had more than a few sexual partners, but so many men’s biggest goal is to have sex with as many women as possible and they see men who “get” a lot of women as cool. The act is quite literally the exact same thing: they’re both having sex, but men are made cooler by it and women are made dirtier by it. It makes no sense and is just misogyny.
It’s truly caveman thinking that sees sex as an act of conquering another (instead of a mutual act of connection and pleasure between two equals): being conquered is shame worthy and conquering another is worthy of praise.
I think extremely lowly of men who see sex and women this way.
That men complain about something it’s a legitimate complaint and some action might be taken. If women complain they are upset and emotional. This is how my workplace operates.
Women are automatically favored by divorce courts
Fighting for custody in family court. Judge and court guardian seem incapable of accepting that teen kids who ask they not be forced to stay with mom could have any reason besides dad alienating them against mom.
Truth doesn’t matter in family court. The perception of the truth is all that matters.
Believe all women
Come on. We all have had exes, sisters, cousins, girlfriends, wives and other women in our lives that lie like a rug
No one would ever say believe all men
That it’s ok for women to wear bikinis that show the size and shape of their breasts, nipples and in many cases – labia, but men are judged for wearing speedos/swim briefs that are often less revealing.
Men should be open with their feelings because acting tough and masculine is toxic and unappealing!
Wait are your feelings are full of insecurities in social interactions. coping with trauma from abusive parents. or from not getting to live your life and grinding away?
Never mind.
We really just wanted to see you pet a kitten, or cry over a movie or something.
It’s fucking hot in summer and I have to wear slacks for work, even in the field. Give me a skirt, damnit, I’ve got the legs for it!
God I just want to feel wanted sometimes without initiating
The way people will bend over backward to justify and excuse women’s abusive behavior, or any kind of unethical behavior for that matter, while crucifying men with no mercy for the same behavior.
That women should work with customers and men should work in the back
That housework is a woman’s responsibility.
Women are bossy and men are direct.
The whole “man up” thing for how men are expected to react/deal with situations is frustrating. Society can punish men a lot more than it does women when one shows weakness.
If a woman sexually harasses/assaults a guy, no big deal. Business as usual.
The single mom is the problem, and not the dad who abandoned the kid/mom.
How women who are tired and/or serious and/or quiet are perceived as being grumpy or being in a bad mood when a dude can literally go a whole day not smiling and saying one word, the guy cracks one joke and people think he’s hilarious and a gem to be around
That women are too emotional to lead a country (US specifically) but our current president is a spoiled brat/crybaby who acts almost exclusively on emotion
Fashionable plus-size clothing feels like it is only made for women. Above a certain size, men’s clothing looks like it is exclusively designed for dads who have given up on fashion.
women can have their women’s spaces all to themselves but women are always expected to be welcomed into and space carved out for any activity dominated by men
Everyone’s happy if a woman can finish in 2-5 mins. No one’s happy when I do it 🙃🙃
I hate how girls get the good soap and guys are stuck with tree smell and/or concepts
That the man should be the breadwinner in the house and if a woman outdoes him salary-wise, that she’s got her priorities all screwed up and that it also makes him somehow less than a man.
Also from my mother: that my (female) name appears first on my joint account with my husband
Male pdf files seem to be more vilified more than female predators. They’re equally disgusting!!! Even female accomplices of male predators. All of them, scum!!!
Single fathers are heroes, single mothers are trashy.
If mom changes diapers she does her duty, if dad does it he is dad of the year.
It’s not the worst one or the first, that came to mind. This one just pisses me off so much!
Hot contenders:
This one’s gonna get a little heavy, but Male R#pe is considered a joke. Think about how many times you’ve heard a joke about “dropping the soap” or something similar, Peepshow (a BBC show funded by my taxes) makes male r#pe a punchline source
If a girl dresses like a guy, no one cares. But if a dude wears a dress its weird as hell. Anybody can wear whatever the fuck they want.
That men shouldn’t show any emotion other than anger. The double standards are ridiculous. The fuck you mean showing emotion is “feminine”??? It’s human!
I got sexually harassed at work HR did nothing. If I had made several crude comments about how she looked, and grabbed her butt when she walked by, Id’ve been fired instantly.
Man decides to live alone with his dog, he’s shunned social norms, praised by bros and lives with ‘man’s best friend”. Women decide to live alone and have a cat she’s a mad cat woman destined to die alone because she made bad choices.
A lesser thought of one :
The laundry tax
I can fold my own laundry in like 4 minutes. Every girlfriend I’ve had has closes that take easily 3x as long. Women’s clothes and stringier and tighter. I need to turn most of my gf’s clothes inside out because they got screwed up when she took them off because they’re tighter than men’s clothes. I have no idea how to fold some of the weird string strapped tank tops she has. They’re made of odd material and require more complicated wash options.
Sure she could buy loose fitting cotton tees and jeans like me, but fashion/culture would peg her as sloppy.
Aging. It’s getting better but I super hate how traditionally women are considered out to pasture over 40 while men are considered to just be hitting their stride. Will be so grateful when that shit gets evened out.
That women are allowed to have and exhibit feelings, but if men do the same they’re ridiculed.
God forbid I want to cry every once in a while without having to hide it.
That single mom’s are judged so harshly but single dad’s get the whole “OMG, that poor man having to raise those children all alone!” Experienced this myself 🙄
I hate that men aren’t allowed to be meek/shy but if a woman is shy she’s cute and not “weak” or “pathetic”
The double standard of a single mother, oh she needs all the help we can give her but if it’s a single father raising a daughter he’s automatically a creep to some or he can figure it out on his own. Classes labeled “for all parents” turn away single fathers all the time because “this is a mother focused group and they aren’t comfortable practicing breast feeding techniques with a man in the room”. Doesn’t matter the dude lost his wife in labor delivering the child he’s got with him.
Everything related to divorce and laws in general
The one where so many female teachers that have sex with underage students don’t go to prison. While most male teachers that have sex with underage students go to prison for years.
Can’t call a women fat or make fun of her looks, but it’s fine to say a guy has a small dick, laugh at him being bald or saying things like ‘short guy energy’.
Men paying for everything when it comes to dating. This made perfect sense when women weren’t allowed to have careers to support themselves. We haven’t lived in an economy where this made sense for a while.
Paying for two of everything everywhere you go gets expensive fast. Women will complain about men wanting to just hang out at their apartment with them instead of going out on dates. I think this is a major motivating factor. You’ve made yourself an expense to be managed instead of company.
That women who engage with children are just women. Men who engage with children are seen as dangerous and potential pedophiles.
Women are expected to be the homemaker even if they work full time. Men can come home and relax with the excuse of “they’ve been working all day”. Ik some relationships are a team effort which is awesome, but not everyone.
If you have gender disappointment because you’re having a son and not a daughter is seen as reasonable but if you have gender disappointment because your having a daughter and not a son you’re seen as being completely ridiculous
And in the same breath it’s 100% acceptable and awesome to call yourself a girl mom/dad but you’re cringy and disgusting for calling yourself a boy mom/dad
There are individuals out there who honestly think it’s okay to say that a male student enjoyed their female teacher raping them but wouldn’t dare say that if it were a male teacher and female student.
When I was on FB and came across news stories about a female teacher being charged for inappropriate behavior with a minor, I always saw people in the comment section saying stuff like “Where was this teacher when I was in school?!” or “Ohhh, he’ll be alright. It was going to happen eventually.”
If you’re on FB, go find a story about a woman who sexually abused her male student; I can guarantee you you’re going to see at least 3 comments of men, yes men, saying that shit…it’s sad…absolutely no one would say stuff like this if the genders were reversed.
Women being SA’d is a tragedy and of the utmost concern. Men being SA’d is a joke, even by ‘help’ services.
A woman who is with a younger man is a cougar. A man who dates a younger woman is a groomer.
Only women can be victims of sexual assault, all men want it.
Only men abuse women not the other way around.
I almost got fired cause a girl with a crush kept touching me and I told her multiple times not to. It was all on camera yet I still had to go have a sit down with hr and got a warning cause I hurt her feelings when I said that she needed to keep her hands to herself. I’m sorry if I grabbed a girl in the same way she grabbed me I’d be in jail.
Man cheats=he’s a piece of shit
Woman cheats=well, she must have been really unhappy and good for her.
Edit: I, in no way, am condoning cheating. Just pointing out the double standard.
Bisexual women are viewed as a very attractive thing to men.
Bisexual men are viewed as dirty gay men to women.