What the the chances the Allies sans the U.S. or Russia would’ve still eventually defeated Nazi Germany, or at least ended up in a stalemate with redrawn borders?
What if American had remained mostly isolationist during WWII and only declared war on Japan after the attack on Pearl Harbor?
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The thing is if we had remained isolationist Japan never would have attacked us.
The Japanese attack on Pearl harbor was in response to the American blockade of the Japanese archipelago .
Hitler declared war on the US so we would have had to go to war anyway to protect our ships from German subs.
The US did only declare war on Japan after Pearl Harbor. Germany declared war on the US after the US declared war on only Japan, and the US declaration of war on Germany was totally in response to Germany declaring war first.
Also, the allies were winning the war without the US being actively involved. Yes the financial infusion from the US helped and the bombing of Japan helped shape the outcome of the war and speed it’s end.
But no mistake about it, the war would have still been won with the US. It would have taken longer and cost more lives but would have still been won.
It’s just US propaganda that they won the war & saved the world.
the nazis were already fucked by dec 1941. it just would’ve taken longer for them to lose.
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If they had truly remained isolationist I doubt Japan would’ve attacked. The U.S. basically forced them into a corner by limiting their access to natural resources.
That would have required Hitler to not declare war on the US.
Ummm what
Thats literally what happened LOL
Henry T Ford was a card carrying A1H8 supporter.. they were friends…
The K³lan were running entire school systems
I mean I guess the US could do to Germany what Japan did when Poland declared war on it: “nah, we’re good.”
Probably would have to stop sending all that lend lease to the UK though.
We did.
It was Hitler that declared war in the U.S.
Japan was an ally of Germany and Italy. Declaration against one was a declaration against all.
But hypothetically, My guess would be Germany wouldn’t have been defeat for at least a decade later.
Or what if America hadn’t stopped selling oil to Japan forcing them to attack to take our oil fields?
Without the US or USSR involved, the capital of Europe would be Germania. Actually, bit like it is today……..
Well England would have fallen for sure. Which meant most of Europe would basically be occupied by Germany.
This would mean Germany could focus much more heavily on its African and Russian fronts.
Russia won (easier) mostly due to Germany’s incompetence…or should I say hitlers incompetence. Then again, Russia’s economy/manufacturing was heavily boosted and helped by the US, so…….
I’d say, definitively that Europe would have suffered far more without us aid. In the end, Hitler didn’t have the industry and infrastructure to take/hold much more than he did….but that doesn’t mean he couldn’t destroy more than he did.
Honestly…Germany would be able to acquire the resources they needed in Africa and then focus on destroying Russia and England with the Japanese assisting. Once they would have conquered Russia, (and I don’t care how many people say Russia had more people and the winter would’ve still happened, they would have been able to strategize better and would’ve defeated Russia. Then they would have probably turned to South America and establish military infrastructure there and then have a terribly bloody onslaught with the US. The other thing to think about is if we would’ve still been working on weapons development like the Manhattan Project. If we waited too long, they might’ve been able to develop a weapon of mass destruction before the Americans. Put one of those bad boys on their V2 rockets and Germany can send Nukes from very long distances.