https://www.politico.com/news/2025/07/26/democrats-approval-rating-poll-00478141
The dems favorability rating is reaching record lows. The messaging appears to be in disarray.
I can’t identify a message I would call the center message on the left but on the right I can state several (regardless of whether you agree with method) such as peace through strength, protecting children, men are men and women are women, secure borders.
Regardless if you agree with their methods, those messages are espoused by republicans and if you asked someone “which party supports these messages” 99% of Americans would know which party you were speaking about.
For dems, tho, the messages that have been focused on have either become poison or are being abandoned by the party.
What are the centrist messages that dems rally around?
And as a follow up, is it a winning message?
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https://www.politico.com/news/2025/07/26/democrats-approval-rating-poll-00478141
The dems favorability rating is reaching record lows. The messaging appears to be in disarray.
I can’t identify a message I would call the center message on the left but on the right I can state several (regardless of whether you agree with method) such as peace through strength, protecting children, men are men and women are women, secure borders.
Regardless if you agree with their methods, those messages are espoused by republicans and if you asked someone “which party supports these messages” 99% of Americans would know which party you were speaking about.
For dems, tho, the messages that have been focused on have either become poison or are being abandoned by the party.
What are the centrist messages that dems rally around?
And as a follow up, is it a winning message?
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They tried beating the right by moving to the right, and for some reason that didn’t work, so now they are out of ideas. Clearly they’ve already done everything they can. Not their fault.
Your question is confusing because you are using “left” to mean the center of the Democratic Party, but the left of the Democratic Party is the opposite of the center of the party.
>I can state several (regardless of whether you agree with method) such as peace through strength, protecting children, men are men and women are women, secure borders.
>Regardless if you agree with their methods, those messages are espoused by republicans and if you asked someone “which party supports these messages” 99% of Americans would know which party you were speaking about.
You can’t be serious. With the whole Epstein thing going on, you surely can’t be serious.
Further, “protecting children” isn’t a centrist message. That’s a message the vast majority of human beings have, regardless of their political beliefs.
“Peace through strength,” and “men are men and women are women” aren’t centrist, either; they’re extreme right-wing messages.
And everyone wants borders that are secure, even people who favor unlimited migration (often mischaracterized as “open (as in, completely open, unsecured, no-checks-allowed) borders”).
Your entire question is bad-faith.
> What are the centrist messages that Dems can rally around
That they maybe need to try something other than centrist messaging.
pro-choice, pro-immigration, pro-healthcare, pro-diversity, pro-LGBT, pro-education, tax the rich, pro-environment, pro-diplomacy.
Again you could dispute whether the labels are appropriate or whether the approaches are good but that’s the labels I’d bet most would associate with the Democratic party. As in, say any of those and people would almost universally associate them with the Democratic party over the GOP.
The Democrats played a stupid game with culture wars bullshit over the last eight years and it has predictably become their brand whether they like it or not.
We don’t have to be the anti-right on EVERY SINGLE ISSUE. We don’t have to hitch our wagon to terrible fucking movies just because the right calls them woke. It makes us look like idiots.
We play this stupid game where any time someone disagrees with us on cultural issues we go “well, despite your staunch support for a public option, higher minimum wage, amnesty for illegals and criminal justice reform, your position on trans sports tells us you’re literally a fascist” and then we act surprised that a couple years later their social circle is more conservative and their views change.
As I’ve said before on this subreddit, if the average leftist had to choose between winning the next election and being more measured with how they apply words like “fascist” and “racist” we would never win another election again ever.
Like this would be my bet: between now and 2028, if you label an internet stranger a fascist over cultural or social disagreement and that stranger turns out to be a registered Democrat, we will lose the election. We’ll fucking lose that election.
We just can’t get away from culture wars shit and we live in denial that the right are the only ones who engage in it, and then some actor says “I love my fans on both sides” and we’re like “bro… is Glen Powell a fascist? Do we need to organise a boycott of The Running Man?”
(Powell didn’t say that I’m just using a random hypothetical)
Assuming you mean like what the Democratic party tends to push for, it’s something like:
pro-choice, pro-energy (especially wind and solar), pro-diversity, pro-taxing the rich to pay for social programs for everyone, pro-education, pro-trade, pro-healthcare access
There are some other themes like pro-labor, pro-immigration, etc. that aren’t as universally shared but the majority likely align with.
>peace through strength
Is it “strong” to put a reality TV star into the commander in chief role? Who elevated an alcoholic TV host to the role of SecDef because he liked his show?
>protecting children
Come on. Insofar as this is a political value, it’s clearly a liberal/progressive one. Protecting the vulnerable is, like, their whole thing.
>men are men and women are women
So this is a woman?
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>What is the left’s focus?
Governing well and responsibly.
We’d love it if they did more, but when Republicans win elections they tend to undermine that effort, so that’s where the dividing line is.
For Example:
You may have heard that Trump wants to add a bunch of new tariffs, but he has had to cancel those plans multiple times because he has laid-off the people who would implement those tariffs.
Republicans are so against “governing well and responsibly” that they can’t implement their own agenda, as that is too low of a priority for them.
There is no unified left, I don’t get why everyone here seems to be under the impression that every single self identified leftist follows the same ideology, any amount of time in leftist spaces will expose that nobody on the left can agree on much at all, especially when it comes to what wins an election
Depends on what part of the Left you ask which is, ultimately, our problem
I’m an old liberal. I believe our focus should be on investing in our kids. If you look at the most successful advanced economies in the world, they all invest in providing great education for their children. The wealthy elites who run America don’t want to educate your children for a variety of reasons (cheap labor pool, reliably manipulated voters, for-profit prisons). Education is empowerment.
Next would be removing dark money and corporate money from politics so the people can be properly represented as outlined in the Constitution. Limits on campaign donations. Publicly funded elections. The scales are tipped at a 70 degree angle. This must be balanced to maintain our democracy.
>The dems favorability rating is reaching record lows.
FYI: Voters disapprove of Democrats because they are losing, not because they don’t want Democrats to be in charge.
>What are the centrist messages that dems rally around?
Are you asking what is the Democrats central message or are you really asking what is the message they are trying to send the ‘centrist’ faction?
Cuz, Why do Dems need to cater to centrist, in your view?
Dem’s should be left of center, not ‘centrist’.
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It’s hard to have a message when the media does nothing but lie about Democrats. And it’s all media, not just Fox. How do you counter the firehouse of lies? I sure don’t know.