What would you do if you found out your current partner listens to people like the Tate brothers, Hamza, Elliot Hulse? What if he hasn’t done anything horrible so far but follows those guys?
What would you do if you found out your current partner listens to people like the Tate brothers, Hamza, Elliot Hulse? What if he hasn’t done anything horrible so far but follows those guys?
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I’d be out. 100%. Done. Hard pass.
So my partner could be caught listening to those guys, only to know what’s being said though.
I’d dig into their value set and what they believe and ask why they listen to those podcasts. If it doesn’t pass the vibe check, I’m out
Immediately break up. Bye bye.
Leave.
It’s only a matter of time. Cut off. Safety first.
Leave immediately with no discussion.
The only way you keep listening to that stuff is if you agree with its worldviews.
Otherwise you would listen to literally anything else.
Immediately dump them
Ghost
They wouldn’t be my current partner.
Be very very sensitive to manipulation. It won’t start out horrible. In fact, he will start by “rewarding” you in ways that will probably feel very nice.
I only know about what these snakes actually teach from a YouTube video I watched today about a reporter in NYC who went on a bunch of dates with right wing men. They essentially teach this absolutely toxic way to “subtly” groom you into being a submissive “wife.” It’s really fucking gross.
https://youtu.be/LU5gjuffw3E?si=ZlkQhQzb7ns8xi0i
This isn’t just an agree to disagree situation, this mentality is dangerous. It’s based on the subjugation of women (it is most definitely not “equal but different roles”), seeing women as an inferior other who owe men something. Please get away.
It doesn’t really get worse than the Tate brothers. That’s the reddest red flag
100% instantly ended, over, bye
Unless he was doing a research project and had evidence to back that up, instant couples counseling and individual counseling to either 1) figure out what the fuck is going on and why he’s suddenly feeling this way or 2) figure out how to split and coparent as easily as possible.
If he says no to that, I call my lawyer. And I have a very, very good lawyer.
Boy, bye.
Tolerated it and then he tried to strangle me so lesson learned. 100% no
I would want to know why they follow them. And if they agree on talking points, it’s too much of an ideological difference for me to keep seeing them.
“So far”. Do you want to wait for something horrible to happen?
Not be with them anymore.
I’d be drafting an exit strategy for myself and my children with the absolute quickness.
Break up but not in person. That’s some extremist shit. Ghost, block, fake your death, fall off the face of the earth. Nuh-uh, no gray area there.
Ideally you would have had conversations about why he listens to them and what he gets out of it.
Hasn’t done anything horrible yet. I think you know the answer. In addition, hasn’t done anything horrible yet that you know about.
It’d be over. I’m not going down the rabbit hole with him.
Listening to those guys is doing something horrible. It’s only a matter of time before the horrible things he is doing are directed at you (or your loved ones)
Leave.
Have a SERIOUS come to “insert deity of choice” moment and set some HARD boundaries and see where he stands.
This is a hard red line IMO.
I would be gone so fast, I would look like the Bugs Bunny cartoons where the coyote blasts through the side of a mountain or wall, and all you see is his silhouette.
Maybe and that’s a big maybe if it was just someone like i don’t know…Rogan every now and then; you can give the guy a chance.
Tate on the other hand, that’s a no. They absolutely degrade women. 3 seconds of listening to them and if you don’t tune out you have issues or are deaf.
They don’t have to ‘do’ anything to be horrible. It’s how they think and what they believe. Why would he listen to any of them if he doesn’t agree with what they say?
I’d call the psych ward for a 72 hr hold because his usual podcasts are Hasan Piker and other leftist content. Then, if it’s determined he hadn’t had a complete psychotic break, and he’d somehow been fully red pilled, I’d dump him.
End it. Immediately
I’m out.
That’s the beginning of the slippery slope and it’s not my job to fix it.
Following/listening to those guys is doing something horrible.
Instant dealbreaker. The only excuse would be for academic reasons. Not “intellectual,” truly academic, like research for a specific project. Literally no other excuse.
That would be the end of it.
I don’t have patience with men entertaining this toxically masculine thinking.
Dump him on the spot. It’s only a matter of time before he starts to act like them too and I’m not waiting around to be on the receiving end of it. Not too mention I would be immediately disgusted by him anyway.
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I would start making plans. Seriously.
Honey, if you’re reading this, I love you but nothing could bring our relationship back from that
Years ago, before the pandemic, my ex found Jordan Peterson. I didn’t really know who he was at the time, I didn’t pay much attention to it, but looking back that’s really where the s*** show started. I think he was always a little misogynistic, however as he started falling further into the manosphere and the right wing pipeline, it got worse and worse.
It culminated with him pushing me to quit the new job I just got, because he found out I worked mostly with men. I had started wearing makeup again, and he became ridiculously upset over it. He would refuse to talk or look at me if I had it on. If he had to look at me he’d give me a disgusting look while doing it. It was crazy. And it ramped up once he met my boss and co-workers at the Christmas party. He felt really inferior, and I’m honestly lucky that the pandemic started and I was able to start working remote, because I really don’t know what would have happened.
Once they go down this road, rarely if ever do they turn back. Run. I’m not even joking. I almost had to quit a good job because of this b***. I left 4 years ago. I wish I had done it sooner.
It may be unlikely but I would want to know if he follows and agrees.
I’m sure 99% of people who follow these people do it because they agree with them but there are some people who want to simply stay informed. I’ve listened to and watched a ton of content from all sorts of awful people, not because I agree with them but because I think it’s important to understand both sides of an argument before formulating and opinion, and much like I’d expect anyone who wants to challenge my beliefs to first actually understand them, I think it’s important that I understand the ideas I disagree with and don’t just take the general narrative of Andrew Tate bad at face value.
(To clarify I think the Tate brothers are terrible people, just not because everyone says so but because I took the time to see what they were saying/doing and then reached the same conclusions)
Have you tried having a conversation with him prior to asking strangers? There is a chance he’s engaged for positive reasons
“Hasn’t done anything horrible so far” means you’re already preparing for it to happen, which is telling and also very astute of you. Run away!
If the relationship has a lot of value: Offer couples therapy, and depending on his answer leave or try to help deprogram him.
If it’s “who I’m with right now and my life is worth something” : leave.
I got divorced(was one of many reasons, though😂).
Would not stay a partner to that partner.
I had an amazing guy that red pilled me after we moved in together. He was damn good at masking. Long story short, he ended up dumped & I ended up in a mental hospital from all the emotional abuse and gaslighting. I can’t believe he coerced me into following all that shit. That was the lowest year of my life. 12 years later and it is still affecting my mental health. It was like living a horror movie.
Edit: My answer is get as far away as possible.
I consider listening to that as having done “something horrible”. There are few redder flags than this. I would caution women against unfair anything to do with a man who listened to this. Even if he claimed to be “reformed”. There are millions of decent men out there for women to chose from. They need to stop flopping about on shallow waters.
I would see why he follows them. And of any of his actual views he holds are no goes to you? If so, leave, if not stay
I would break up immediately. There’s a group of guys I know, and one of them watches Joe Rogan. It’s unsettling to me someone as intelligent as him watches that crap.
Also I would tell him why I was leaving. Men don’t get to hate women and have them too. They can pick one or the other.
So long, sucker. Nothing good will come of t.
I forgot, what is elliot hulse on about? I know from years back he had these yt videos about advice about advice and deep breathing techniques etc. But that was way back
Sayonara.
That’s a dealbreaker.
I’d run so fast that he wouldn’t even see me leave. It’s only a matter of time before those views become a big issue. He’s hiding.
How is this even a question???
Dump him. Obviously. Dump him. Only a matter of time before he takes off that mask.
Divorce. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200. No second chances.
I would be fine on my own.
I’d ask him some probing questions about views on women and then probably agonize over it and dump him a few days later
I’d tell you but I don’t want to incriminate myself.
My best friend does… it’s genuinely upsetting to think that such a smart, handsome, talented overachiever is morally bankrupt.
Absolutely nope the fuck outta there. My ex listened to Joe rogaine daily and it always bothered me. Guess who turned out to be a misogynistic abusive asshole?
You are what you consume…
‘so far’
Not wearing a seatbelt hasn’t killed me. So far.
Smoking hasn’t killed me. So far.
He’s hateful to others but not to me. So far.
He hurts others but he hasn’t hurt me. So far.
He hasn’t killed me. So far.
You seem to see the connection between listening to that garbage and him doing something ‘horrible.’ It is not normal to espouse those views and listening to them is a form of endorsement. There are better people out there for you and if I were in your position I would leave.
Leave. Before they do the horrible thing. Make sure all in their lives know why.
It’s a pipeline for sure, doesn’t help that the algorithm is constantly trying to get guys to watch it. Filtering that shit is a job at this point.
cut him off, but let him know exactly why. protect the next woman he dates.
I would immediately end the relationship. It’s like dating someone that attends KuKlux Klan gatherings. He may not be putting on the white hood, but he’s spending time with it.
I would leave. How do you know he hasn’t done anything horrible, because it never happened to you? Plenty of women vouch for predators they didn’t know the truth of. Don’t be one of those women, the Tate brothers are as foul as it gets for hating and disrespecting women. No truly good guy is listening to that.
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Boy, bye.
I would never be with someone like that so it’s a moot point.
Buh-bye. Don’t even want to know anyone that listens to shit like that. Poison
You don’t share values. That’s a fundamental mismatch. Done.
He’s following people who hate women. What does that say about him? What does that say about what he really thinks about you?
A majority of men will create a whole new persona to reel you in. What he follows tells you that there’s a contradiction somewhere.
Drop him immediately. No question.
I do wonder how long it took you to realize that he listened to that stuff?
I listen/read all of them.
I also help run an organization for young boys to recognize manosphere propaganda and how to avoid it and make healthy, kind, and smart choices about who their role models are.
Know thy enemy.
Only to hatewatch
I would ask him why he lied to me because this is definitely something I would have tried to find out prior to committing to him.
I would pack my bag and get as far tf away as I can.
Dunno who the others are but I wouldn’t knowingly associate with anyone who listens to the rape brothers
I like shows like John Oliver and Stephen Colbert, and they have to watch a LOT of video from some terrible people to find the clips they need for their shows.
If my boyfriend was listening to those guys because they worked for a place like Right Wing Watch or something like that, no problem. Somebody has to dig through the filth and lies in order to expose it to daylight.
But if he’s listening because he likes what they’re saying, or because “sometimes they make good points,” or anything like that, then it’s Bye Felicia. (Or I guess “Bye Felix.”)
I would dump his ass so fast his head would spin.