I work as a therapist in a high school. When teen boys have alluded to this kind of mentality, I’ve responded with curiosity. Time permitted, I’ll ask them about the values they learned in their family and culture.
I agree with the other ladies saying « don’t engage ».
Instead of wasting my energy on them I make a point of being a good role model for a young woman, support a member of the LGBTQ community, mentor a teenage boy, help a young couple with their new baby.
The opportunities are endless, and it’s so much more rewarding
Well it depends. I worked with the guy who thought he could show me up or put me in my place. I talked circles around him. Answered questions with questions being intentionally vague. It was great fun. If I feel I’m in a unsafe situation though that’s a little different.
All it takes is one statistic/fact/research report to shut them up. I’ve never met a manosphere degenerate that I haven’t shut up. Their “facts” are just their opinions, so I don’t have to use too much brain while engaging with them. It is quite fun lol.
I wipe the floor with them. I have a Phd and 3 master’s degrees because people told me I would make someone a good wife. I’ve had to hide my intelligence in many circumstances for safety and as I get older I get freer from that. Fuck the manosphere. I don’t seek out interactions with them but if I have to interact I don’t hold back.
If you came across a rabid animal in the wild, foaming at the mouth and acting erratic and everything, super aggressive and attacking/infecting everything in sight, how do you normally approach it? Run
I ignore them. If I have to interact with them, it’s very minimal. If they, for some reason, try to continue conversation I just treat them exactly how I feel about them. They already hate women, so we’ll be on the same page.
i handle it with the same caution I’d use if I accidentally walked into a vegan crossfit convention. I slowly back away while complimenting their beard and disappearing into the shadows xDD
Teenager or college age, I tell them straight up ‘that’s not nice’; I don’t necessarily let them get away with douchey behavior but with younger men, I give more grace.
If this is a full adult engaging in this type of behavior (the one I see most in the wild is negging), I’ll respond something like ‘well if I’m fat and ugly good news is you don’t have to date/kiss/fuck me’ and then they’re usually like ‘wait, no’ because that’s what they want lol
I usually just ask how it’s working out for them, it breaks their brain. My childhood close friend fell so deep into it I couldn’t pull him out of it, he’s getting ghosted by everyone in his life now, not just girls but friends too. But he still acts like he’s the man and that’s the correct way to live. Last time we talked I asked him how it’s working out for him knowing full well he got ghosted by everyone single girl he tried to talk to. Broke his brain and I decided to ghost him as well.
I’ve only encountered boys and young men who engage in this thought sphere and they’re usually quite socially inept (hence the vulnerability to being fed this hateful content).
This will come off as cocky, but I’m honestly very skilled in humour in real life. It helps with small talk and helps “disarm” people with lots of walls. So whenever I’m faced with one of these young men, my humour usually confuses them. It’s typically “oh she uses the same humour that I’m used to seeing on the internet. And she’s a woman.” That part alone breaks their brains a bit. Then I sprinkle in feminism with internet meme jokes and vulgar remarks.
Almost every woman I know is hilarious, I’m surrounded by great people in that regard. But most of them don’t want to engage with these kind of kids. On the other hand, I see these guys as alone and vulnerable, and in need of an outreached hand to remind them that women are humans and they’re more than bodies in porn. It’s not our responsibility to all do this, but I have the capacity for it and therefore happily do my part.
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I don’t. I stay as far away from them as I possibly can.
Edit: your edit doesn’t change my answer. If I’m unable to avoid them completely, like at work, I stick to the bare minimum and ignore them otherwise.
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Ignore them completely or as much as possible. Won’t engage, argue, entertain or get roped into any discussion or interactions.
I’m great at making shitty men feel even more invisible than they already do.
I stay as far away from them as I can, and try to leave the situation as soon as possible. They’re not safe.
A what?
I work as a therapist in a high school. When teen boys have alluded to this kind of mentality, I’ve responded with curiosity. Time permitted, I’ll ask them about the values they learned in their family and culture.
I agree with the other ladies saying « don’t engage ».
Instead of wasting my energy on them I make a point of being a good role model for a young woman, support a member of the LGBTQ community, mentor a teenage boy, help a young couple with their new baby.
The opportunities are endless, and it’s so much more rewarding
Well it depends. I worked with the guy who thought he could show me up or put me in my place. I talked circles around him. Answered questions with questions being intentionally vague. It was great fun. If I feel I’m in a unsafe situation though that’s a little different.
All it takes is one statistic/fact/research report to shut them up. I’ve never met a manosphere degenerate that I haven’t shut up. Their “facts” are just their opinions, so I don’t have to use too much brain while engaging with them. It is quite fun lol.
I’m mouthy af and do not care. If they wanna engage, they better be prepared to cry and die mad
Ladies. Can you please explain what/who a manosphere is.
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I just ignore them. Hopefully it hurts their ego a bit lol. They don’t deserve attention from women.
My demeanor changes, I’ve been told. Treat them like the children they are if for whatever reason I have to engage.
laugh at them, roll your eyes, disengage, ignore
I wouldn’t say any more than I had to, if I truly had no choice to avoid them. You’d be surprised how easy it is to do so, though.
Isn’t the rule to punch the shark in the nose when it’s trying to bite you?
Grey rock to the moon and don’t voluntarily engage. If engaged, act bland but positive and uninteresting. Those guys are dangerous.
I engage in a very sarcastic troll like manner.
I wipe the floor with them. I have a Phd and 3 master’s degrees because people told me I would make someone a good wife. I’ve had to hide my intelligence in many circumstances for safety and as I get older I get freer from that. Fuck the manosphere. I don’t seek out interactions with them but if I have to interact I don’t hold back.
“Manosphere denizen” lol 🙄 Tell me you hate men without directly saying it haha
If you came across a rabid animal in the wild, foaming at the mouth and acting erratic and everything, super aggressive and attacking/infecting everything in sight, how do you normally approach it? Run
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I ignore them. If I have to interact with them, it’s very minimal. If they, for some reason, try to continue conversation I just treat them exactly how I feel about them. They already hate women, so we’ll be on the same page.
i handle it with the same caution I’d use if I accidentally walked into a vegan crossfit convention. I slowly back away while complimenting their beard and disappearing into the shadows xDD
how old are they?
Teenager or college age, I tell them straight up ‘that’s not nice’; I don’t necessarily let them get away with douchey behavior but with younger men, I give more grace.
If this is a full adult engaging in this type of behavior (the one I see most in the wild is negging), I’ll respond something like ‘well if I’m fat and ugly good news is you don’t have to date/kiss/fuck me’ and then they’re usually like ‘wait, no’ because that’s what they want lol
I usually just ask how it’s working out for them, it breaks their brain. My childhood close friend fell so deep into it I couldn’t pull him out of it, he’s getting ghosted by everyone in his life now, not just girls but friends too. But he still acts like he’s the man and that’s the correct way to live. Last time we talked I asked him how it’s working out for him knowing full well he got ghosted by everyone single girl he tried to talk to. Broke his brain and I decided to ghost him as well.
I’ve only encountered boys and young men who engage in this thought sphere and they’re usually quite socially inept (hence the vulnerability to being fed this hateful content).
This will come off as cocky, but I’m honestly very skilled in humour in real life. It helps with small talk and helps “disarm” people with lots of walls. So whenever I’m faced with one of these young men, my humour usually confuses them. It’s typically “oh she uses the same humour that I’m used to seeing on the internet. And she’s a woman.” That part alone breaks their brains a bit. Then I sprinkle in feminism with internet meme jokes and vulgar remarks.
Almost every woman I know is hilarious, I’m surrounded by great people in that regard. But most of them don’t want to engage with these kind of kids. On the other hand, I see these guys as alone and vulnerable, and in need of an outreached hand to remind them that women are humans and they’re more than bodies in porn. It’s not our responsibility to all do this, but I have the capacity for it and therefore happily do my part.