Why is it vaccines in particular that these people are against? Why are they not against supplements, or anesthesia or toothpaste? Why hyperfocus on this one thing?
Why is it vaccines in particular that these people are against? Why are they not against supplements, or anesthesia or toothpaste? Why hyperfocus on this one thing?
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Why is it vaccines in particular that these people are against? Why are they not against supplements, or anesthesia or toothpaste? Why hyperfocus on this one thing?
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Historically there are a handful of potential reasons, but in 2025, really since COVID, it’s because the left/liberals/Democrats support vaccines. The entire MAGA movement is fueled by whatever is anti-left/liberal/Democrat.
Fluoridation is a big conspiracy. It’s probably older than the current anti-vax movement. But, I’m sure there were people who refused to get vaccinated since the very beginning.
The Tuskegee syphilis study also didn’t help. Especially in minority communities.
No one “cares” if you don’t use toothpaste or supplements.
If your child doesn’t get vaccines, many schools exclude them from participating.
If you didn’t have a Covid vaccine during the peak of Covid, some places didn’t let you in.
So these people are expressing their unhappiness of there being consequences for their choices that they don’t like.
1998 Andrew Wakefield then former doctor falsely linked MMR vaccines to autism. The monster has grown since then. That with a now huge distrust with government institutions has lead kooks to result to “natural” snake oil that didn’t work before vaccines came along and won’t work now either.
Vaccine “scare” has deep roots in the Anglo-Saxon world (I recommend this video that explains how it started and why it was moronic https://youtu.be/8BIcAZxFfrc?si=hkCDmKq7CQ4yevUu) amd it was strengthen by covid
A lot of it came from the anti flu vaccine movement that really was going on in the 90s. This was kinda combined with the movement in the 00s towards supplements and snake oil from places like GNC and whole foods. There was also a push against over prescription of things for ADHD etc.
Plenty of people are actually against toothpaste though because of fluoride.
I think I’m the only one that is against supplements, but I’m mostly just luke warm towards them. I think they need better regulation in the US and they are overly marketed towards us.
Distrust of things they cannot understand.
A desire for control over a crazy world, to think they have secret knowledge, and that they’re creating their great destiny.
Russian information warfare.
They’ve been caught paying to amplify the most harmful voices and built a pipeline from simple online communities to the most harmful conspiracies.
We aren’t going to start fixing any of this until we address where it’s come from.
We can’t assume that people who are anti vaccination are not also anti supplements or anti anesthesia and ect. Those other items don’t carry with them political baggage so we don’t know how people feel about them.
People don’t like to be told what to do. That’s why anti Vax gets a large following.
The mandatory and highly politicized covid vaccination blow the top off.
Health officials handled the human interaction part of covid response terribly. Which in some part is excusable because that’s not their job; that is the job of elected leaders. Elected leaders, too worried about being blamed, took a step back and pushed helth officials into a position that is not their expertise.
It was a fringe view, Republicans normalized it to reach an even larger group of idiots.
People are stupid. They don’t understand shit, so they think you’re lying to them. More educated people tend not to hold on to stupid and false beliefs the were indoctrinated with when young, so those people get labeled libtards, and as such, the dumbs must oppose them, and their beliefs, at all costs.
It comes from people with an overblown resistance to being told what to do. It’s annoying but we want diversity. Just like gene pool, where traits which seem harmful now become beneficial species-saving features when conditions change. People getting to be stupid idiots is a consequence of diversity and freedom. It keeps us strong.
Con artists can sell and make money off of bullshit supplements. I guess it’s more work before they’d be able to profit from vaccines.
Also, the idiots like the idea that they, unlike experts or everyone in their life who thinks they’re idiots, are the ones who know the real, secret truth.
The anti-vaccination movement has deep historical roots linked to concerns about individual liberty, religious beliefs, and mistrust of medical and governmental authority. Sometimes those concerns have been well warranted and merited. There really isn’t a coherent political spin that can be applied.
It used to be a left wing thing I was embarrassed about. Usually it was a way to virtue signal for liberal parents that their kid was “special” because they didn’t/couldn’t take vaccines.
A twat named Andrew Wakefield, who claimed the MMR vaccine causes Autism. Yes, I hate this man because I’m autistic.
Honestly the Anti-Vax movement mostly came from neither the right or the left, but the Libertarians.
Alot of people forget that most politics is not just a 1 axis Left-Right spectrum, but a 2 Axis Liberal-Conservative vs Authoritarian-Libertarian spectrum. Both the libertarian Left and Right had a anti-vax component to them as You had the conspiratorial Libertarian right (the whole Microchip to control your brain byt he gov types) and you have the anti Big Pharma anarchist left libertarian who were generally against any ideas pushed by the Medical industry as greed from Big Pharma.
Defiance. My ignorance is just as valid as your knowledge / experience.
Originally it was primarily suburban moms and the crystal-rubbing, naturalist liberal types back in the late 90s and early 00s. But since COVID the movement has been dominated by conservative reactionaries that dislike vaccines because liberals like them.