I kinda hated Iron Man for trying to kill Bucky in Civil War, Bucky physically killed Tony’s parents but his mind was controlled by someone else. So Iron Man was wrong there.
In the ancient world he was regarded as a hero but he was actually a stroppy, sullen man-child who sacrificed his allies in their hundreds just to prove himself right.
Not signing the accords, at least they would have been together.
But it was locking down Wanda which pushed him over the edge, a decision massively vindicated given how she turned out! And it was the right decision initially as the world wanted her arrested
Buffy. She was in the wrong half the time. Dating Angel (A vampire that she should have killed, and as a result of not killing him,he killed the second slayer, Kendra.). Stabbing Faith (a human and a slayer) to save a vampire. These were all things that were against who she was destined to be. The reason she had superpowers to being with was to slay only evil.
Not to mention she was friends with lame characters like Willow and Zander.
Ned Stark was wrong to change Robert’s will. For an honest guy that was a very dishonest thing to do. The arrogance to assume he knew better than Robert, his friend and king, was astounding, and sure enough, it ended up tearing the world apart. Not only was it intrinsically dishonest, it was also wrong from a utilitarian perspective- it would certainly lead to war and jeopardize at minimum the lives of Robert’s kids.
He also went about it in a foolish way, blundering so badly it lead to his own deaths and of many of his family and friends.
Ned was so focused on his personal idea of honor, he forgot to be honest and compassionate.
And for the record, Ned was given multiple warnings, chances to stop, and signs that this was a terrible, malicious plan for everyone involved.
already saw someone post this but figured i would say it again: invincible was wrong for losing his shit on cecil when he found out about cecil’s contingencies. and the guardians of the globe shouldn’t have split off, but that was less their fault and more the fault of cecil for failing to properly explain his position to everyone
I think this take has already been beaten to death by pop media observations of it, but a pretty solid chunk of the time, Indiana Jones. There is the age-old “His involvement was irrelevant in Raiders, and he substantively did nothing of importance to the overall plot.” line. But then you consider how many times his “It belongs in a museum!” line is applied to artifacts and totems that belong to active and devout cultures; When he needs to flee from violent natives, with artifact in-tow, that’s not archeology, that’s just pillaging. Then, lastly, there is the part that doesn’t age well, where Jones canonically is hooking up with minors.
Yeah, stripped of the catchy theme music, and thrill of popping nazi’s in the face, Indiana Jones spends a lot of time being wrong on how to go about his literal job. Those artifacts don’t belong in a museum, he belongs in the Lecture Hall!
“Ohhh but if I kill this mass murdering, genocidal terrorist I’ll be just as bad as him…”
“…Let’s put him in the exact same prison he’s escaped thousands of times before without changing anything about it, instead. It’ll work this time, for sure.”
Like, atp just say you’re either evil or mentally ill (and I’m not talking about the joker).
Robin Williams in Mrs. Doubtfire. He quit his job on a complete whim, threw a massive child’s birthday party that looked like it cost thousands of dollars and was pretty destructive on top of that, had the audacity to get mad at his already unhappy wife when she finally explodes, then dresses up as a woman and takes on a character to become his kid’s nanny and foil the mom’s plan of trying to move on. This could have all been avoided if he was ever honest with himself and his family.
Bruce Wayne. If he just killed most of the DC villains when he had the chance to, thousands of lives would be saved. I understand the rationale for not killing people but does the joker really need to break out of Arkham 600 times before Batman decides it’s time to go?
Thanos. Don’t tell me he wasn’t the hero of Infinity War. Just because the universe agreed with his twisted philosophy doesn’t mean it would work that way in reality.
Wanda Maximoff.
Trapped an entire town, then committed homicide across the multiverse just to get her kids back. I know that she was driven by grief, but she went too far. She used her powers for the wrong reason.
There’s a fan theory about The Matrix that’s been gaining traction: Neo was never actually “The One” – Agent Smith was.
Think about it: The Oracle tells Neo he’s not The One, and she doesn’t make mistakes. What if she was telling the truth? The prophecy states The One would be born inside the Matrix, with the ability to change it from within. Neo was just a human who could unplug. Smith, however, was born inside the system.
Throughout the trilogy, Smith is the one who truly evolves beyond his programming. He develops emotions (hatred, fear, disgust), can replicate himself, and eventually becomes powerful enough to take over the entire Matrix – something Neo never does. Smith even says, “It was your life that taught me the purpose of all life” – acknowledging Neo as his catalyst, not his equal.
The biggest clue comes in the final battle. When Neo finally “defeats” Smith, he doesn’t actually beat him – he surrenders to him. Smith assimilates Neo, and that process allows the machines to delete Smith’s code. The prophecy wasn’t about a human freeing other humans; it was about a program freeing the machines from their own flawed system.
This explains why the Architect and Oracle seem to be playing a game with each other – they’re cultivating both Neo and Smith as different potential solutions to the system failure. Neo wasn’t The One who would save humanity; he was the one who would save the machines from Smith, who was The One with the power to truly change the Matrix from within.
Rewatch the trilogy with this in mind, and suddenly Smith’s obsession with Neo makes perfect sense – he’s not trying to stop The One; he’s becoming The One.
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Captain Caveman
Every hero is 100% wrong in the villain’s perspective lol.
Mark was wrong about Cecil
Professor Xavier
Spiderman. Mary jane was mid at best. The real treasure was his landlords daughter
Ironman
Thanatos was inevitable and there was no villains for 5 fucking years.
Avengers were fucked and gone n dead n shit and world was at no drama usual peace for 5 fucking years.
The fucking mess avengers is
Begone.
Mr Incredible for how he treated that kid who became the villain
The Vessel. Fuck Hallow Nest, let the sun burn!
Ender Wiggin in the first book.
I kinda hated Iron Man for trying to kill Bucky in Civil War, Bucky physically killed Tony’s parents but his mind was controlled by someone else. So Iron Man was wrong there.
Achilles.
In the ancient world he was regarded as a hero but he was actually a stroppy, sullen man-child who sacrificed his allies in their hundreds just to prove himself right.
Captain America
Not signing the accords, at least they would have been together.
But it was locking down Wanda which pushed him over the edge, a decision massively vindicated given how she turned out! And it was the right decision initially as the world wanted her arrested
No hero is 100% wrong. It depends on your perspective how wrong someone is.
Now heel turns – they are 180° wrong.
Batman. The amount of money he spends on gadgets and his alter ego could do way more good if actually applied to fix the systemic problems of Gotham.
Yoda.
When the chips were down that dude sucked. He made terrible decisions. He was probably the best ally the emperor had.
The Penguin.
Cap in civil war. In reality, whoever made the sokovia accords was the bad guy, but he actively ran from, fought against, and hid things from Tony.
Homelander
Kyle Katarn JKA (Canon) gives up the force as attonement
Buffy. She was in the wrong half the time. Dating Angel (A vampire that she should have killed, and as a result of not killing him,he killed the second slayer, Kendra.). Stabbing Faith (a human and a slayer) to save a vampire. These were all things that were against who she was destined to be. The reason she had superpowers to being with was to slay only evil.
Not to mention she was friends with lame characters like Willow and Zander.
Woody from Toy Story is a narcissistic piece of trash. Forky was right all along
Joe Jackson, thank you for Michael but he went abt it the WRONG way
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Tigress was wrong for calling Po “a disgrace to kung fu” in Kung Fu Panda!
Rape-man
It’s a japanese comic book superhero where the hero basically…. To bring justice
Joel from the last of us
Michael Collins
Batman in Justice League & Justice League Unlimited cartoons.
Man has literally hottest goddess there ever is simping for him. Just date that divine piece of ass. Dafuq you tripping about?
Walter White
OK I got a hot take for you.
Ned Stark was wrong to change Robert’s will. For an honest guy that was a very dishonest thing to do. The arrogance to assume he knew better than Robert, his friend and king, was astounding, and sure enough, it ended up tearing the world apart. Not only was it intrinsically dishonest, it was also wrong from a utilitarian perspective- it would certainly lead to war and jeopardize at minimum the lives of Robert’s kids.
He also went about it in a foolish way, blundering so badly it lead to his own deaths and of many of his family and friends.
Ned was so focused on his personal idea of honor, he forgot to be honest and compassionate.
And for the record, Ned was given multiple warnings, chances to stop, and signs that this was a terrible, malicious plan for everyone involved.
Harry Potter
already saw someone post this but figured i would say it again: invincible was wrong for losing his shit on cecil when he found out about cecil’s contingencies. and the guardians of the globe shouldn’t have split off, but that was less their fault and more the fault of cecil for failing to properly explain his position to everyone
I think this take has already been beaten to death by pop media observations of it, but a pretty solid chunk of the time, Indiana Jones. There is the age-old “His involvement was irrelevant in Raiders, and he substantively did nothing of importance to the overall plot.” line. But then you consider how many times his “It belongs in a museum!” line is applied to artifacts and totems that belong to active and devout cultures; When he needs to flee from violent natives, with artifact in-tow, that’s not archeology, that’s just pillaging. Then, lastly, there is the part that doesn’t age well, where Jones canonically is hooking up with minors.
Yeah, stripped of the catchy theme music, and thrill of popping nazi’s in the face, Indiana Jones spends a lot of time being wrong on how to go about his literal job. Those artifacts don’t belong in a museum, he belongs in the Lecture Hall!
Abe Lincoln
Batman
Captain America in MCU civil war.
He-Man
Castle Grey Skull does appear to legitimately belong to Skeletor.
Batman.
Why the fuck is joker still alive to date?
“Ohhh but if I kill this mass murdering, genocidal terrorist I’ll be just as bad as him…”
“…Let’s put him in the exact same prison he’s escaped thousands of times before without changing anything about it, instead. It’ll work this time, for sure.”
Like, atp just say you’re either evil or mentally ill (and I’m not talking about the joker).
John Wick killing Santino on Continental grounds wasn’t great for everyone involved.
Robin Williams in Mrs. Doubtfire. He quit his job on a complete whim, threw a massive child’s birthday party that looked like it cost thousands of dollars and was pretty destructive on top of that, had the audacity to get mad at his already unhappy wife when she finally explodes, then dresses up as a woman and takes on a character to become his kid’s nanny and foil the mom’s plan of trying to move on. This could have all been avoided if he was ever honest with himself and his family.
Bruce Wayne. If he just killed most of the DC villains when he had the chance to, thousands of lives would be saved. I understand the rationale for not killing people but does the joker really need to break out of Arkham 600 times before Batman decides it’s time to go?
In the Aquaman movie there’s a part where Aquaman, speaking about the villain, says “he blames me for his father’s death”.
Like… yeah that’s because you let him die.
Thanos. Don’t tell me he wasn’t the hero of Infinity War. Just because the universe agreed with his twisted philosophy doesn’t mean it would work that way in reality.
Wanda Maximoff.
Trapped an entire town, then committed homicide across the multiverse just to get her kids back. I know that she was driven by grief, but she went too far. She used her powers for the wrong reason.
Homelander
There’s a fan theory about The Matrix that’s been gaining traction: Neo was never actually “The One” – Agent Smith was.
Think about it: The Oracle tells Neo he’s not The One, and she doesn’t make mistakes. What if she was telling the truth? The prophecy states The One would be born inside the Matrix, with the ability to change it from within. Neo was just a human who could unplug. Smith, however, was born inside the system.
Throughout the trilogy, Smith is the one who truly evolves beyond his programming. He develops emotions (hatred, fear, disgust), can replicate himself, and eventually becomes powerful enough to take over the entire Matrix – something Neo never does. Smith even says, “It was your life that taught me the purpose of all life” – acknowledging Neo as his catalyst, not his equal.
The biggest clue comes in the final battle. When Neo finally “defeats” Smith, he doesn’t actually beat him – he surrenders to him. Smith assimilates Neo, and that process allows the machines to delete Smith’s code. The prophecy wasn’t about a human freeing other humans; it was about a program freeing the machines from their own flawed system.
This explains why the Architect and Oracle seem to be playing a game with each other – they’re cultivating both Neo and Smith as different potential solutions to the system failure. Neo wasn’t The One who would save humanity; he was the one who would save the machines from Smith, who was The One with the power to truly change the Matrix from within.
Rewatch the trilogy with this in mind, and suddenly Smith’s obsession with Neo makes perfect sense – he’s not trying to stop The One; he’s becoming The One.
Darkwing duck.
Naruto