Joker. Especially in the first movie. He was right about how society views “outsiders” or people that are different. I thought it was a very powerful message about self discovery, even though Arthur was a fucked up person.
He’s not right at all because he’s a psychopath but handsome Jack in the borderland games believes he’s 100% the main protagonist and it’s the players that are the really bad guys
General Francis X. Hummel. He only wanted the families of the men that died for their country to get compensation and recognition for what they died for.
In the end you could see it was all a bluff by him, he was never intending on going through with the attack, he just wanted to raise awareness and maybe actually get the compensation. He also seemingly knew this was his last mission and he only went through with it after his wife died. He had nothing else to live for
General Hummel from “The Rock”. The government fucked him and his soldiers over. Dude just wanted his men to get the money and accolades they deserved.
Shere Khan. It’s been a while since I’ve seen or read it, but he believes that inviting man into the jungle will mean he brings fire and destroys the forest, which is exactly what happens.
In the recent film I think he even warns them all. In the real world, I think we all know what humans do to forests.
In the Marvel Universe, of all the possible timelines and storyarcs, the only one that allows humanity to thrive and prosper in a perfect utopia is when Doctor Doom is allowed to become the absolute ruler.
Roy Batty from Blade Runner. His methods may have been bad and people got killed, but his motivation was to get a normal lifespan for him and his friends. Instead, they sent an assassin to kill them all.
The machines in The Matrix. Humans literally scorched the sky to try to destroy them, and instead of wiping us out, they created a whole virtual world to keep us alive. That’s actually pretty generous considering we tried to kill them first. I work in tech, and honestly, they showed remarkable restraint.
Witnessing my kid suffer and starve to death in my arms, only to realize there was a God a mile down the road who could have effortlessly saved her, I’d be slayin’ MFers too.
In the original Canon of the Star Wars extended universe, Palpatine was playing 4D Chess to save the galaxy, and a bunch of scruffy nerf-herders went and tanked decades of effort. Low and behold, when the Yuuzhan Vong arrive, with Force Immunity and Planet-Sized warships, the Galaxy was fresh-out of Planet-Destroying artillery. Trillions perished because of it, and Palpatine had been working to prevent that.
He had every reason to be angry. His father was killed by Wakanda’s king, and instead of being brought back home, he was abandoned in a system that never cared about him. He grew up seeing injustice, violence, and racism while knowing that there was a hidden nation with the power to help but choosing to do nothing.
He wanted to use Wakanda’s resources to fight oppression and empower people who had been ignored for generations. His methods were extreme, but his message was completely valid. Even T’Challa saw that and changed Wakanda’s future because of him.
Thanos has a sort of undeniable point that unrestrained growth almost always inevitably leads to an exhaustion of resources but his solution was pretty ass. It doesn’t solve anything in the long term anyways because populations don’t just stay halved because you killed half of them.
I’ve heard people try to argue that Thanos had a point with overpopulation and lack of resources…
Dude had the ability to alter space and time. He couldn’t have snapped his fingers to provide abundant resources for everyone instead of offing half the universe?
Malware from Ben 10 Omniverse, he was born with a condition that affected his life code which caused him to go insane and wanted help from his creator to cure it. Only for him to then be rejected from his creator and be seen as nothing but a failed creation rather than a living being who needed help. It’s basically like your doctor refusing to help you because you suffered from a mental disorder.
Todd and Margo from Christmas Vacation. They’re a nice hardworking childless couple trying to enjoy the limited time off they have with each other and their sociopathic neighbor saws trees in the middle of the night and destroys their home.
Magnifico from Wish. He had a traumatic experience as a child and worked to create a safe a prosperous kingdom for people from all over the world. He monopolized magic, but it was to prevent disaster and destruction and death. And he denied some people their wishes, but honestly he didn’t have to give any wishes and most of the ones he denied were dumb. And technically he didn’t stop people from pursuing their dreams he just didn’t hand it to them with magic.
Then a chaotic god-like magical creature falls to the ground and is found by an irresponsible teenager who is certain her idealism is absolutely correct and refuses to see any nuance.
To turn him into an actual villain they had to use an evil book McGuffin.
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Mr. Freeze from Batman and Robin. He wanted to end global warming by collaborating with Poison Ivy, who wanted to plant a lot of trees.
Magneto. I don’t blame him at all
Joker. Especially in the first movie. He was right about how society views “outsiders” or people that are different. I thought it was a very powerful message about self discovery, even though Arthur was a fucked up person.
Thanos
He’s not right at all because he’s a psychopath but handsome Jack in the borderland games believes he’s 100% the main protagonist and it’s the players that are the really bad guys
Sauron from Spider-Man
Captain Hook…
Principal Ed Rooney
The tiger from The Jungle Book
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Madara
Ted Kaczynski (as I post this on a social media platform)
Killmonger (Black Panther): His methods were violent, but his anger was rooted in centuries of injustice.
The Boyfriend from Bee Movie, imagine your GF dumping you for a tiny little bee.
General Francis X. Hummel. He only wanted the families of the men that died for their country to get compensation and recognition for what they died for.
In the end you could see it was all a bluff by him, he was never intending on going through with the attack, he just wanted to raise awareness and maybe actually get the compensation. He also seemingly knew this was his last mission and he only went through with it after his wife died. He had nothing else to live for
Inspector Javert was only trying to capture an escaped fugitive.
General Hummel from “The Rock”. The government fucked him and his soldiers over. Dude just wanted his men to get the money and accolades they deserved.
Shere Khan. It’s been a while since I’ve seen or read it, but he believes that inviting man into the jungle will mean he brings fire and destroys the forest, which is exactly what happens.
In the recent film I think he even warns them all. In the real world, I think we all know what humans do to forests.
Magneto… I’m beginning to empathize with his position more and more.
Every dinosaur in any of the Jurassic films they were just doing what animals do and eat when hungry
Every one of them who is written good, from Sauron, Thanos, Dr. Doom, Joker, Lex Luthor, Magneto, Captain Hook, even Hannibal Lecter.
They all believe they are heroes in their own story and believe their point of view, so in their mind they are 100% right!
But if had to chose one, who perfectly encapsulates this point, it would be Lex Luthor.
Why he hates Superman?
He sees him as an alien, who can effortlessly destroy or enslave the world if he turns evil, and does everything in his power trying to prevent this.
And in a way he is 100% right, as shown in Injustice games, where Superman gets evil!
The dad in dirty dancing. Some grown ass man in his 20s was trying to bang his teenage daughter. What the fuck was he supposed to do?
In the Marvel Universe, of all the possible timelines and storyarcs, the only one that allows humanity to thrive and prosper in a perfect utopia is when Doctor Doom is allowed to become the absolute ruler.
Gaston, he’s living up to the societal values of his time and someone from his village was kidnapped by a magical beast.
Roy Batty from Blade Runner. His methods may have been bad and people got killed, but his motivation was to get a normal lifespan for him and his friends. Instead, they sent an assassin to kill them all.
The machines in The Matrix. Humans literally scorched the sky to try to destroy them, and instead of wiping us out, they created a whole virtual world to keep us alive. That’s actually pretty generous considering we tried to kill them first. I work in tech, and honestly, they showed remarkable restraint.
Luigi Mangione
Walter peck was right up until he shut down the containment grid. But the ghostbusters had no business running that equipment in the middle of NYC.
Karen… sometimes you just gotta talk to the manager
Negan from the Walking Dead series. Rick killed 23 of his group based on bad intel and he only kills 2 of Rick’s as retribution?
Magneto was right. Magneto did nothing wrong.
The mum in Mrs Doubtfire.
Gorr the God Butcher, at least in the film.
Witnessing my kid suffer and starve to death in my arms, only to realize there was a God a mile down the road who could have effortlessly saved her, I’d be slayin’ MFers too.
Ursula from the Little Mermaid. Triton and Ariel signed contracts.
Magneto.
larry david
In the original Canon of the Star Wars extended universe, Palpatine was playing 4D Chess to save the galaxy, and a bunch of scruffy nerf-herders went and tanked decades of effort. Low and behold, when the Yuuzhan Vong arrive, with Force Immunity and Planet-Sized warships, the Galaxy was fresh-out of Planet-Destroying artillery. Trillions perished because of it, and Palpatine had been working to prevent that.
Erik Killmonger from Black Panther.
He had every reason to be angry. His father was killed by Wakanda’s king, and instead of being brought back home, he was abandoned in a system that never cared about him. He grew up seeing injustice, violence, and racism while knowing that there was a hidden nation with the power to help but choosing to do nothing.
He wanted to use Wakanda’s resources to fight oppression and empower people who had been ignored for generations. His methods were extreme, but his message was completely valid. Even T’Challa saw that and changed Wakanda’s future because of him.
Thanos has a sort of undeniable point that unrestrained growth almost always inevitably leads to an exhaustion of resources but his solution was pretty ass. It doesn’t solve anything in the long term anyways because populations don’t just stay halved because you killed half of them.
I’ve heard people try to argue that Thanos had a point with overpopulation and lack of resources…
Dude had the ability to alter space and time. He couldn’t have snapped his fingers to provide abundant resources for everyone instead of offing half the universe?
Malware from Ben 10 Omniverse, he was born with a condition that affected his life code which caused him to go insane and wanted help from his creator to cure it. Only for him to then be rejected from his creator and be seen as nothing but a failed creation rather than a living being who needed help. It’s basically like your doctor refusing to help you because you suffered from a mental disorder.
Todd and Margo from Christmas Vacation. They’re a nice hardworking childless couple trying to enjoy the limited time off they have with each other and their sociopathic neighbor saws trees in the middle of the night and destroys their home.
Roy Batty in Blade Runner. Just wanted to live a longer life like the rest of us, and not just live to serve in hard labor
Megatron. Dude wanted his people to be able to choose their own faith instead of being forced to do what they were made for.
Magnifico from Wish. He had a traumatic experience as a child and worked to create a safe a prosperous kingdom for people from all over the world. He monopolized magic, but it was to prevent disaster and destruction and death. And he denied some people their wishes, but honestly he didn’t have to give any wishes and most of the ones he denied were dumb. And technically he didn’t stop people from pursuing their dreams he just didn’t hand it to them with magic.
Then a chaotic god-like magical creature falls to the ground and is found by an irresponsible teenager who is certain her idealism is absolutely correct and refuses to see any nuance.
To turn him into an actual villain they had to use an evil book McGuffin.