Although they have won the most Copa Libertadores titles (25 vs 24 Brazil), but they have won only 2 titles in the past 10 seasons compared to 7 titles for Brazilian sides.
Although they have won the most Copa Libertadores titles (25 vs 24 Brazil), but they have won only 2 titles in the past 10 seasons compared to 7 titles for Brazilian sides.
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Compensation for how better the performance of their NT is compared to ours during the last few years, they are giving us a break here
Because VAR exists now
There is no money
It isn’t that argentinian teams got bad.
Brazilians teams got too good.
Good as in having way more money and being able to keep brazilian players for longer, bring them back from Europe earlier, and also becoming a pit stop where good players from the other southamerican countries will go to play before moving on to Europe.
No $.
European rich clubs keep taking the best players.
That is why for us in South America, World cup is way more important than any club tournament. In the World Cup $ cant steal your talent.
We have a bit of a decade long, corruption led, politically tied crisis in our own football league
We have been trying new formats that nobody likes for the past years, with terrible fixtures, cups that nobody really cares about and constant change in the number of teams and relegation formats
Add to it the constant corruption of team directives, the very real and complicated climate around visitors even being allowed in, and a economic crisis and you get this mess we are in
For reference:
Some teams play at a loss of money in certain matches.
The last time we held elections for AFA, the result came as 38v38 with only 75 people voting.
Every single election for club president is tainted by the political climate (ex president Macri was in the ringer for Boca’s last election)
Teams are so corrupt the current president of San Lorenzo was filmed taking 20k USD from a family so their kid would go to the club.
Several reasons
Argentinian youngsters are leaving earlier
Youngsters from other countries (Uruguay, Colombia, Ecuador…) are leaving for Europe and don’t need to play in Argentina anymore
Brazilians have a shit ton of money, better infrastructure and more people, no one in south america can compete against them
Chiqui mafia and that awful tournament promotes mediocrity
Their biggest team (boca) is being managed by a bunch of morons
Money.
Most of the best South American players from countries other than Brazil go to Europe or Brazil itself, so teams usually have mediocre performance in comparison to Brazilian teams.
Ecuadorian teams are better than average but despite having won several Sudamericanas recently, we have only won one Libertadores nearly two decades ago.
Whenever Ecuadorian teams do well, their best players almost immediately get bought by European teams, which is good for the National team, but not so great for the performance of local teams, good money though.
Money. Brasilian football changed the regulation a while back where clubs can take in private investment to a much greater extent.
In Argentina there is still a fan ownership model. Combine that with the generally dire state of the Argentinian economy for a while now (plus useless football governing body) and you get a gap that opens up and is growing.
Because Papai Brasil está de volta na área, companheiros >!(at least on club level, because our National Team is shit).!<
Money: Brazilian teams spend an enormous amount of money, many times bringing back not-so-old players from Europe that are in good shape. In top of that, they have , as always, an enormous amount of young and talented kids.
And every season is one of those teams that specially shines.
It used to be Flamengo in 2019 and latter. Palmeiras in 2023 I think, then it was Botafogo.
Liga MX needs to make a return>>>
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Brazilians are too rich
MONEY. Brazil allows corporate groups to purchase clubs and inject them with cash. Argentina doesn’t.
Also the argentine peso has been weak for the past couple of years, pushing talent elsewhere in search for better salaries.
Because we did an exchange
We become bad as a national team so they could be good again and win
They become bad at Libertadores so we can be good and win
Brazilian teams have too much money. They literally bring players from Europe, and they’re not completely washed either.
>they have won only 2 titles in the past 10 seasons compared to 7 titles for Brazilian sides.
This would be worse if CONMEBOSTA didn’t have a rule that prevented a final between two teams of the same nation. Brazilian clubs would have been dominating since 2005 otherwise.
>Why aren’t Argentine teams good at Copa Libertadores anymore?
The way the sport is going, where money is king, it was only the top traditional Argentine clubs that were still competing regularly. Now even they are getting left behind. The tendency is for this to get worse.
Also, VAR. No joke. & even then, it isn’t perfect.
There is no money, and the league format is schizophrenic, opaque, and just plain stupid due to unbridled corruption and nepotism, leading to even less money.
Contrast this with the Brazilian league, which might have the best format in football. Only 20 teams, 4 of which get relegated every year. Beautiful madness.
Money.
Money
They were never that good. It was just brazilians teams that didn’t care much about the tournament in the past and conmebol that forced Brazil, who is half of South America, the richer country and the one with best football to unfairly have the same number number of teams as Bolivia. Brazil have many big clubs, Argentina just have River and Boca. Brazil winning each year is the normal thing, it’s the past that was an anomaly. Also, the VAR was invented, so argentinians now don’t have their 12th player.
A lot of people are talking about money, and that’s certainly a valid point.
But not many are talking about how crazy difficult Campeonato Brasileiro is. Take most European national leagues and you’ll have the same few teams playing for the title every year. And although currently Palmeiras is in great shape, every year you have lots of teams contending for the title here.
It is not only the money or Tapia’ handling of the leagues, Argentinian football academies are still producing good prospects, but not in large numbers as in the past.