idk like France and Italy… big part from the economy comes from tourism. and locals yet HATE them. doesn’t make sense to me
(i edited bc i expressed myself wrongly)
why do countries that rely on tourism HATE tourists?
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idk like France and Italy… big part from the economy comes from tourism. and locals yet HATE them. doesn’t make sense to me
(i edited bc i expressed myself wrongly)
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Because tourists have a reputation of trampling over the culture.
Take Japan, for example. They have a specific term for this, called “Gaijin Smash”, where someone is so unfamiliar with the rules and culture that they just break the laws without any idea
for the same reason even towns that rely on tourists hate them: tourists can be very very very obnoxious. they’re on vacation and expect to be entertained and catered-to. they want the things they’re used to, in places they’re not used to. and they certainly don’t care that people actually live there.
Because people just value money and not people. Texas is very much that same way, they want to California business money to come here, but not the politics f the people that accompany it. They just want the money. Tourist areas are that way to, they love the money it brings in but it is a lot of work and upkeep keeping a place tourist worthy. Plus tourists in general just suck, they walk in places like the own the place and just make ridiculous demands. and every week its a new crop of Karens to deal with.
Because if your job/income has nothing to do with tourism, why wouldn’t you hate tourists?
You hold the idea that they would be nothing without tourists, and that is a big part of the problem. They were doing so well without the tourist that tourists wanted to come.
France would hardly be “nothing” without tourism. They’re a modern industrial country with tourism being just one way they generate revenue along with agriculture and manufacturing. Tourist, even well behaved ones, can be annoying. Imagine you’re just trying to live your life and traffic problems are exacerbated because so many people from out of town are there. It just gets frustrating.
Because tourists are fucking annoying. They don’t have to like you to take your money. Next question.
Bc tourists can be ridiculously entitled and treat places like an amusement park made for them, with zero consideration for littering, inflating housing prices and overall cost of living in some areas.
I lived in a major touristic city for a few years and worked at the city centre. Me and the locals would never go to the center unless absolutely necessary (eg for work), bc the whole area was taken over by tacky tourist traps, people stopping you in the middle of your walk to work to demand you take pictures of them, pissing on sidewalks near bars cause they couldn’t grasp the concept of ppl actually living there, since it was all for tourists, right??
During the pandemic it was kinda heavenly actually, bc everyone who actually lived there could stroll down the center without major crowds of entitled ppl.
Last but not least, unless you have a tourist shop or attraction, locals don’t profit at all from tourism. It’s mostly for the government. That’s why there’s an anti tourism sentiment in many places but governments want to shut it down since they get fat bucks to siphon into the latest bullshit they come up with that doesn’t add much value to the average inhabitant
Having lived in a vacation down for about 10 years.
Traffic and delays going about your day.
Ski resorts, beaches, mountain bike trails, etc. places get really crowded and its annoying. you tend to get annoyed at “the crowd” but in those cases the crowd is almost entirely tourists.
There also can be an element of the Money spent. you see people (who may have had to save up all year) buy front row tickets to a show you’re trying to see, or get VIP packages, etc. makes people envious and again they will target those negative emotions at the tourists.
Its very easy to forget, that tourist towns wouldn’t have all the amazing shows, recreation, restaurants, etc, with out huge crowds of tourists.
When I lived in Tahoe, there was lots of amazing restaurants, buffets, shows, because its a tourist town. 🙂 and many of my friends made a ton in tips.
Air b n b properties are removing rental opportunities for locals and there’s a housing crisis pretty much everywhere in the world these days. Plus, if it gets big on til Tok or Instagram or whatever, large crowds and influencers ruin the beauty and experience of the place
The governments of countries with high tourism love tourists because it makes them a shit ton of money. The civilians hate it because they have to deal with nitwits gawking at the Eiffel Tower which is just scenery to them when they’re just trying to buy groceries.
LOCALS hate tourists. There’s nothing geographic or political about the sentiment.
People don’t like visitors showing up, disrupting their lives, and generally not being super respectful of the LOCALS.
Tourists drive up the prices on everything.
Because most people make fuck all from the tourists and most of the ones that do are paid minimum wage.
Because a large amount of them are extremely entitled and demand to be catered to.
Make a fuss when things aren’t the way they are used back wherever they come from all the while treating whatever city or town they happen to be in as their own personal amusement park with complete disregard to the local population
How uneducated do you need to be to be saying France would be nothing without tourism ? In all places where tourist are there is the ones that profit and the huge majority that get only the consequences, that’s all. The countries that don’t loathes tourist don’t have that many in the first place.
A lot of people hate their work and their “clients”.
Some tourists can be incredibly rude assholes.
Shipping in obnoxious tourists to gawk at your lifestyle is annoying lol. Just because they rely on the money doesn’t mean they don’t wish they didn’t.
Because people on vacation act like jackasses a lot of the time. I’m in the Okanagan region of B.C., Canada. Tons of tourism. But we get MAGA assholes that want to argue with everyone about how amazing Trump is. We joke about Make Americans Go Away. People cut loose when they have no longstanding ties to a community and while fun is great, some of us are just trying to get to work/school and don’t need tourists vomiting on their front lawns as they rent the neighbor’s house as an Air BnB. Crime rates increase with tourism, property damage increases, traffic gets awful. The things we love about our community get commercialized and bastardized.
Because mass tourism prices out the locals, submits the whole town to tourism thus offering nothing to the locals, creates unbearable crowds everywhere, creates exclusivelly shitty, low paying jobs and makes you feel like a foreigner in your own town.
Fuck GDP and fuck the economy if this is the “good economy” brought by mass tourism. We need to drastically increase taxes on tourism.
Many tourist’s are often in ‘vacation mode’, and don’t tend to respect local culture or treat people with respect (especially in more impoverished countries).
Similar to how many treat retail workers and especially when there is something wrong …
Only takes a few interactions with assholes to make you believe those people are all assholes…
guys when i say they would be nothing i dont mean by economics, i mean like the “popularity” of the country idk how to explain english isn’t my first
language 🥲 but yeah, i know france and italy have good structure
Have you met tourists?
They don’t hate tourists. They just hate asshole tourists who act like the rest of the world exists solely to serve and entertain them.
Because tourists are awful
Lemme tell you. I personally don’t hate tourists, I hate capitalism, but let me explain why people in those places hate tourism.
In my country we use a different currency so I ll just explain in euros. My country’s minimum wage is 500 euros, and yours let s say it s 2000, a bigg ass gap between us. The prices become adjusted to tourism, so yk, corporations make money, so now I can’t go to ski in my own country, because instead of 50 euros like it used to be, it s 350. Us, the locals, can’t afford our own country because the prices aren’t made for US, they are made for foreigners tourists who make MUCH more
Because it’s a pretty bad deal for the local population.
It hardly develops any real valuable specialized skills in the population; profits are not a big thing; makes everything more expensive for them; damages nature and puts an extraordinary burden on infrastructure, among many other harms.
I live in a small rural community that gets year round tourism. Summer the lakes are busy and campers are everywhere. Winters are for snowmobiles and then hunting fills in the gaps. I appreciate that I live where people enjoy vacationing but it also took us 6 months of searching to buy a house because wealthy people buy them for vacation homes. The housing inventory is so limited that people won’t move here for work because they can’t find somewhere to live.
Pretty much the same reasons porn stars hate sex. Too much of it
Same reason rely on working jobs that they hate. Sometimes you are stuck putting up with nonsense to pay the bills.
Because tourists are assholes. Assholes with money to spend, but assholes nonetheless.
/occasional asshole myself.
Italian here. A lot of people are bringing up the fact that tourists are loud and obnoxious, but that’s a secondary issue.
The primary reason is that mass tourism deals unspeakable damage to the social fabric of a place. It’s a deal with the devil.
You treat the economy like a monolith. While it’s true tourism has a mild beneficial effect on the economy in general, only a small fraction of the people actually reap the true benefits: wealthy people, i.e. those who own the hotels, flats, seaside resorts and so on.
Everybody else just sees their rent and cost of living increase across the board. Housing demand skyrockets due to many flats becoming tourist short-term rentals. Commercial activities for residents are replaced by tourist traps and souvenir shops. Residents themselves are pushed out of the location, and with their departure the local culture just dies.
Contrary to what tourists may believe, it’s not the pretty old buildings that make our cities so unique. It’s the people, their culture and their traditions: the buildings are simply an effect of those. And once they’re gone, the city just becomes a sterile husk. A theme park devoid of meaning. Venice is the perfect example of this, it’s already dead. Others are following, like Florence. People are beginning to realise it’s just not worth it.
Being annoyed by people giving you money is part of the charm.
I wouldn’t exactly say I live in the biggest tourist hub in world, but my suburb hosts a lot of events (music, sports, etc.)
Any holiday season/event, my city has a ton of extra people in it.
I know the local economy benefits from it, but I can’t say I’m thrilled with all of the extra traffic/noise/congestion/etc.
When I see foreign tourists places here in america they annoy me. Always in your space, different customs etc… they annoy but I’m sure when I traveled abroad I’ve annoyed the people there just how it goes
Entitlement, same reason people who are lucky enough to be employed HATE their job
Politicians love the $$$. People want to live in peace.
Imagine someone shows up to your house, uninvited, looks around, acts obnoxious, eats your food, gets in your way, and leaves garbage lying all over, then leaves. Would you like that person?
Because it’s a destructive industry at its core. As tourist numbers go up they become increasingly disruptive to the daily lives of locals.
Real estate value goes up significantly. Certain areas become prohibitively expensive due to their potential as tourist hot spots and many others are all turned into air bnbs. A lot of tourists also decide to stay forever and become digital nomads or whatever and buy out houses en masse. People are priced out of their own home towns just because someone liked the view or the weather.
Local businesses start to struggle as everything around them pivots to tourism. At some point you have to make a choice, either join in or get out. It also doesn’t help that tourism very often relies on severe income inequality between the countries visitors come from and the destination. While many thing everyone benefits from foreign money the reality is that it doesn’t really trickle down. If people actually get paid better the tourist destination becomes more expensive and loses its comparative advantage to other destinations. So a pivot towards tourism is a death sentence for local workers because it guarantees wage stagnation.
So where does all the money go? In the hands of the few of course. The few people who own property get to rake in the cash whereas everyone else not fortunate enough to have inherited houses and land gets stuck either having to work in hospitality or move away to make room for more tourists. And that’s what people don’t understand. Countries that rely on tourism don’t decide that as a hivemind. It’s a decision made by a few people that snowballs and takes up everyone along with it.
So yeah it is pretty annoying when you’re being pushed out by people who have zero concern for you and just upend our entire life just because they like the sun and the view. It’s unfair that they come from a much richer place and just get to use your home as their personal amusement park while making it harder for the local to live their daily life. And the worst part is that everyone thinks you should be grateful for letting them do that.
They don’t.
I think the pandemic, while an economic burden, brought some peace to these areas that now makes the influx of tourists seem worse than it ever was. Plus, people like to bitch.
Because people suck
If you have a job talking on the phone, you soon grow to hate recreational phone calls.
People who work in restaurants often have terrible eating habits or find it hard to eat at all, working with food all day makes them desensitized to hunger cues.
When your region’s economy depends on the real and very difficult labour of constantly welcoming newcomers who are generally seeking the same low-level experiences and asking the same stupid questions, even the friendliest people become weary of these interactions. Even if you personally don’t work in hospitality, if you live in a tourist area your life is dominated by these interactions, to the point that it’s difficult building a local culture to escape into and relax.
When I lived in Seattle the bane of my existence was keeping the place I enjoy afloat while everyone else just came and trashed it. Also got pretty tired of hearing “Have you been to the Space Needle?”
Very popular destinations are over-run, just way too many tourist & is too much for locals to live normal lives
because thy are not the ones profiting from it and your just in the way
Because tourism is extractive, meaning it doesn’t leave a place better off in the long run. I live in Hawaii. We have tourists stomping on coral and leaving the reefs worse off and needing to be rescued because they did something stupid or didn’t learn about ocean conditions or listen to a lifeguard.
Tourism-facing jobs don’t pay well and AirBnB takes long term housing for workers out of the market. AirBnBs causes the rents on the fewer remaining LT rentals to be higher, significantly stressing the workforce financially. I have friends living in a condo complex which permits short term vacation rentals. Who wants to live next to an ever-changing parade of strangers especially when they smoke on the lanai though the property is 100% non-smoking and stay up all night being loud drunks.
Countries that rely on tourism clearly have a lot of tourism otherwise it wouldn’t add up to enough to rely on. Lots of tourism gets really annoying unless you are the one directly profiting off them, and even then they can be annoying, it’s just worth putting up with.
Lots of waitstaff don’t like snobby rich people but that is what keeps snobby rich people restaurants in business. It’s a necessary evil.
It’s because many tourists don’t know how to behave. My theory is that since they’re somewhere when nobody knows them, they give themselves the go ahead to behave like fuckwads
Relying on something doesn’t mean you have to like it. In fact, it tends to breed resentment. And that’s before you get to how disrespectful of local culture tourists can be!
Some tourists can be arrogant, obnoxious arseholes, gives everyone else a bad name! It’s a bit simplistic and it’s not the whole story, but it’s a big part of it.
I don’t think they necessarily hate all tourists, just the inconsiderate ones who don’t take the time to learn how to behave in these places. Also, service workers don’t take kindly to being treated the way many service workers are normally treated in the U.S. and have no problem telling off rude foreigners.
I can understand that especially going through COVID in city with a lot of tourism, it’s night and day. Going out felt so much better without the tourists.
Spain
Because they like money ? I was a bartender in ft Lauderdale. I fucking hated tourists,but I loved their money.
Tourists suck. We just need their money.
Prine example: That dipshit fuckhead who vandalised the colosseum, last year I think it was.
Tourism brought $78 billion to my city last year. While yes, some tourists can be very annoying, they keep the city’s economy up and running.
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Why do people who rely on their jobs to survive hate their jobs?
If they were not complaining about tourists, they’d just find something else to complain about. We’re all human after all…
France does not hate tourists. Parisiens get annoyed with tourists just like New York.
I actually don’t mind tourists. They are a lot more interesting than the locals.
The small town I’m from has FIPs. If you know, you know. They buy houses on the lake and only spend the summer there. Boating and getting hammered, playing loud music. We did that, but we lived there. It was still annoying though.
I think this problem only applies to developed countries with tourism as the main draw. Not really a thing in less developed countries where they have been tourists magnets for a while.
I’m in SEA and locals do not hate tourists.
Where in Italy do we hate tourists? You’re confusing us with Spain
When you rely on tourism, you’ve gotten to the point that there are a lot of tourists. With a not insubstantial portion of them behaving poorly, damaging natural and historical places, treating locals like they’re there for entertainment and service, disrespecting the local culture, etc., it’s no wonder people begin to hate them
Plus with the advent of Airbnb’s, they’re depriving locals of housing, and many places around the world have housing crises.
I live at the New Jersey shore and the amount of locals who grew up elsewhere but moved to the shore and now don’t shut up about tourists and non-locals ruining the summers is overwhelming.
Tourism is annoying. It’s a thing that makes a small fraction of the GDP at the best of times, overwhelms the local infrastructure, and the hospitality jobs are not exactly high paid, high tech positions a developed country aims for
and as we learned from COVID, unlike more stable sectors, it’s an industry that can basically evaporate overnight in basically any kind of crisis
I personally don’t hate tourists but I don’t like the emphasis on some governments in promoting tourism.
Toursim provides poor quality jobs and drains resources, both natural and artificial (apartments, roads, space, pollution of any kind, etc).
At the same time, it drifts focus to aim for bigger goals like higher education and investigation funding.
So although I consider tourism something normal as a tourist myself willing to know places, I also believe that is a dead end for countries that want ‘easy’ numbers (employment, etc) instead of shifting towards long term more ambitious and productive goals.
The country relies on tourism, the locals want to live in peace.
It’s not that deep.
It’s like saying “How come [country that exports oil and gas] is met with disapproval from his environment conscious citizens?”.
What the economy wants is not what people wants.
Because sometimes tourists can be disrespectful, rude, and unfortunately handsy drunks and if you’ve lived in a tourist area long enough it gets old fast.
Because tourists be outta control. I don’t blame them honestly. Tourists be doing too much and a lotta the time, disrespect the culture
Just cuz that county may rely on tourism, doesn’t mean they have to like those mfs
I don’t hate tourists at all but I can imagine it is because of the type of tourist who wants to say take pictures of our cherry blossoms is a fundamentally easy going type.
I have felt hated as a tourist in Amsterdam and why not! Young men by the thousands flooding in every weekend to get laid and high. Probably not a great bunch to hang out with really
I hate tourists and I’m a tourist
Tourists treat those countries like their own backyard
I rely on my job for 100% of my income and I hate it. Why is tourism any different.
I’m from the US and it’s cool seeing different people come here.
Over-tourism can result in overcrowding, lots of rubbish to clean up, visitors behaving badly (e.g. drunkenly/fighting/loudly swearing or in ways that upset local culture or religion). You can end up with a proliferation of the same tacky gifts shops or high proportions of properties can become Airbnbs while homes for local people become scarce or overpriced. It can also affect local planning rules, which can become very tight and restrictive. It can feel a bit like you’re living inside a snow globe. Artificially preserved that way for the money.
Cuz they’re jerks.
Egypt is my favorite example of this. If they didn’t have pyramids, no one would put up with the insane traffic, filth, rudeness and vendors/hawkers.
Tourism is a parasite that sucks the joy and culture from everything. Yes it brings money and can have positives but is overall negative.
I live in a tourist town.
Sounds like tourism should be outlawed according to this thread. I agree. Ban all tourism.
Tourists are great for those working in tourism related industries. For the general population they are a nuisance
As a Frenchie, we don’t hate tourists, we hate people visiting our country like if they were going to the zoo.
“Tourists” means Americans really, loudly demanding things like at home and ignoring the local customs.
The majority of the locals don’t make money directly. The shopkeepers and taxi drivers and such probably do. But not like the janitors and bankers and so on.
My husband and I want to visit Niagara Falls this year. We shouldn’t go because we will be tourists? Doesn’t these cities and towns depend on tourist money to boost their economies?
Perhaps tourists expose the shame of countries that have to rely on tourism to survive where perhaps the hatred generated towards blameless tourists is really hatred of oneself for not being able to do better
I’m guessing it’s too much of a good thing. When the tourists outnumber the locals, I can see where it might become annoying when it becomes difficult to get around or shop.
AirBnB, et al. increases the number of tourists over and above what hotels can handle. Then you have the cruise ships. Two cruise ships at port might hold 8,000 travelers or more. While they don’t stay overnight, that might mean 6,000 or so travelers all descending on the area for the day.
Then, like everything else in life, tourists follow the 80/20 rule. 80% are fine, 20% are varying degrees of not fine. You remember the 20% more, so the problem seems worse than it is.
Because the people making real money arnt the ones dealing with the touristz
I think it’s like Mean Girls. It’s a unifying thing that the locals do in bashing the tourists. I lived in a tourist town for three years and the stories of entitlement add up. Each wave of tourists bring the same questions and the same types of bravado “I’m on vacation and you are my servant”. It’s soul destroying.
If the tourist stay in the tourist area like say Disney then overall it’s fine. Yeah you might get a bit more traffic and busy airports but that’s not that big of an issue. The problem comes from when tourist are in places that locals actually live. Take Paris, Amsterdam or New York as examples, locals actually live in these places and they need to work, live and have fun in these places but when they have to deal with loud, drunk, clueless, in the way, disrespectful tourist then that can be a problem. It’s when tourist treat places that people live in like it’s Disneyland that you have an issue.
Because those are two different things.
Tourists spend a lot of money so it’s a good thing for the economy
But tourists can also be rude, flooding places, making it harder for local people to go on their life… Which is incredibly annoying for the locals who live there
Basically, you’re confounding a country with its citizen.
Because for your average person it sucks to deal with, be inconvenienced by and not be able to live as well as the fuckers!
Irish person here. I live in Dublin. Over the past 25 years, Ive watched as historic pubs, buildings and and landmarks have been demolished to make way for hotels. Houses that used to be rented out to families are now Airbnbs charging twice the monthly cost of rent for one week stays.
Pubs I used to rely on as comfortable, “everyman” pubs have had no choice but cave to the American tourist market. They now charge twice as much for a pint and sell flat caps behind the bar.
In the summer, my city is overwhelmed by Americans trying to tell every person they meet that their great grandfather is from “Ireland”. The moment they’re asked “oh yeah? Where from?” They say “Somewhere in Ireland”, like we’re not 32 counties with 5 million people.
Whole districts of the city are completely off limits from March 1st until September because the population has swelled so much the streets are impassable.
My day to day life is not improved by this bustling tourism industry. It’s severely impeded. In addition, I can’t go to any other European city without first checking how the local population feels about cheap short rentals and property prices.
Locals don’t hate them, locals hate the ride one who don’t try and learn the language or culture.
Learn French then go, they’ll love you, I know, because I did.
Every country is like that.
Tourists are generally ignorant.
I prefer to tour places off the beaten path. I recently stopped to check out a museum in Decatur, Alabama. The curator had been the judge for 35 years and basically rolled out the red carpet for us, telling us all about the best places to go in his little town, places to eat, wine tasting, and other museums that we hadn’t thought of. We were just passing through at the time, but vowed to come back for a long weekend. I also enjoyed the KATY trail through Missouri. You can ride a bicycle 235 miles across the state on a repurposed railroad line. There are breweries, wineries, pubs, and Bed and Breakfast about every 10 miles. Screw the tourist traps that don’t appreciate me. I want to tour more “flyover states”.
If you bare the brunt of the inconvenience and don’t financially benefit, why would you like it?
The only people who like tourism in their area are those cashing in on it
I think you answered your own question. Tourism is such a big part of the economy- how many tourists do you think travel there each year to overrun it with a lack of knowledge of laws, norms, culture, etc.
Cities and their residents aren’t single entities.
Ultimately, a place that becomes a tourist trap becomes unlivable for many citizens. A zombie economy arises to serve the living museum – think ten, brand new, Ye Olde Bullshyte Shoppes where the real mom & pop businesses closed. Cheap bullshit trinkets made in China. Food they think tourists want instead of what they actually ate there once.
When you become a tourist economy, sure, tourists are all you can rely on anymore – because you destroyed the actual living place.
Probably because nobody asked them if they wanted to be invaded by hordes of low-rent, fat morons and their idiot families before letting them all in so the State could make a few extra euros.
I rely on my job but hate it too
>why do countries that rely on tourism HATE tourists?
You are actually asking why the majority of people who live in the tourist hot spots of any country get annoyed by lots of tourists…. it is obvious….
Only the business owners that experience an increase to their profits from tourism are happy to have more tourism.
But the countries that “rely” on tourism don’t actually rely on it. Tourism promotes mostly big corporations who own the hotels, airlines, and chain restaurants that most tourists go to.
The cost of everything is higher in a touristy city, but the locals who actually live there rarely see any of that economic benefit.
The country doesn’t rely on the tourism, big corporations rely on the tourism and it’s at the expense of locals. Life without tourists is often better than life with tourists.
people are missing the underlying problem here.
it isnt tourists or too many tourists. it is governments not charging enough to control demand and then also not enforcing or explaining local rules.
dynamic pricing on people entering the country can control demand.
and then using that money to ensure enforcement, signs and infrastructure support tourists and locals.
it is franky local, regional, and country governments that are the problem
It’s a joke, right? Don’t you know the brutal impact that tourism has on any city or town? Do you know what it was like to park in your city before and what it’s like now to waste 40 minutes to end up finding a fucking place 12 blocks from your house?
Tourism makes money but it is a fucking nightmare for any human being who has to make a living from it. I hate him, with all my heart.
I wish you just one day of the misery that comes with having to leave home 1 hour before going to work because being 10 minutes from your house, 50 minutes of unbearable traffic awaits you. Just one day.