Traditionally, women have been encouraged to admire and support male performers, while men have been expected to be the stars, not the fans. So when women show devotion as groupies, it’s seen as part of the norm. Men doing the same are often judged or ridiculed for being “too fanatical” or “unmanly.”
Many famous male artists have a mix of fame, power, and charisma that fits right into cultural ideals of attractiveness. For some female fans, getting close to that kind of person can be thrilling or even feel validating. The reverse female artists with male groupies, does happen, but it doesn’t get the same spotlight because the idea of men being devoted admirers or trying to sleep with female stars can be seen as less glamorous or even creepy in media portrayals.
Sometimes, the power imbalance between a male star and female fans reinforces a specific dynamic, fame and control on one side, admiration and pursuit on the other. When you reverse those genders, it challenges norms about power and sexuality, and society hasn’t quite caught up with embracing that narrative fully.
Male musicians are probably quite happy to have sex with random women, but female musicians are probably fairly unlikely to want sex with random men.
Young women/girls also seem to be a bit more likely to truly obsess over a boy band or male artist, like screaming at The Beatles for example, the same doesn’t seem to happen quite in the same way for male fans of female artists.
Would I get downvoted to hell and back if I said patriarchy? The range of “acceptable” behavior for men and women sets the norm. Women pining over a man is to be expected. Men pining over a woman in the same manner, is seen as weird and creepy. Its all arbitrary, but thats social norms for you.
Idk dude. Go to take a look at any football subreddit. You got 50 year old men dressing their kids, dogs, and selves in shirts purchased in 1999 that haven’t been properly washed since because their favourite member of the choreographed violence band wrote on them in sharpie. That’s a groupie.
I think it’s more that female performers would really rather not have a bunch of leering creepy dudes hanging around. Not a lack of men willing to leer and creep on them.
There’s a British band called Rockbitch who would famously throw golden condoms at their performances. If you caught one and presented it after the show, they would (apparently) sleep with you.
What do you call Elon Musk fanboys? As others have said, tho, it is often a mark of shame both to the men and the object of their admiration.
There’s a reason men tend to hide their interests and desires and why fans of franchises like Warhammer or Anime are called freaks while fans of the Beatles are simply called fans or groupies.
Look up any female (fronted) band and the crowd will be filled with male groupies. It’s probably just that there still are much less female performers as opposed to male ones, especially in rock music. Also, the teenie bopper groups tend to cater to young girls, who mature at a much younger age then their male counterparts – and thus more often get celebrity crushes. At that age most boys still are not too interested in girls. So the adoration of celebrities is much more instilled into girls, who will more likely carry it into their late teens/twenties.
Because Men and Women are different. Ultimately it all goes back to procreation. Sleeping with as many women as possible is the optimal strategy for a man because that’s how he would theoretically maximize the amount of offspring he has. Women don’t typically need to be famous in order for men to be throwing the offer of sex at them and they don’t benefit from sleeping with a lot of men in the same way that a man would with a lot of women. There’s just basically no reason for her to set her bar at merely attractive and willing when, being famous, she’s going to be able to pull any kind of person she wants.
For one thing many male stars are happy to sleep with a hot groupie. Very few female stars are.
Also. In general men are more attracted to appearance and women to fame and power. Plenty of ugly male celebrities have tons of groupies to choose from. Most men would rather have sex with a hot waitress over an unattractive celebrity even if they thought they where talented.
I think that, biologically speaking, women are often sexually attracted to successful, powerful men (mates that can provide and protect). Male rockstars typically have influence and money, plus they are often physically attractive (or at least somewhat).
Have you ever met a sports fan? Because the only difference between a K-pop stan, a Lady Gaga stan and a CR7 stan is that the K pop stan is a tween girl, the Gaga stan is a gay man, and the CR7 stan is a straight man, but they all behave the exact same! If you dare to say a single bad thing about their fave they will harass you off the internet!
A woman or girl who is obsessed with a male performer and makes active attempts to have sex with him is called a groupie. A man or boy who is obsessed with a female performer and makes active attempts to have sex with her is called a stalker.
I mean, it doesn’t take much for a man to be attracted to a lady. Famous men enjoy getting the attention of women since it’s hard to attract a lady if you are a Joe Schmo but famous women, not so much. I’m not saying there aren’t famous women who bang their male fans and famous men who prefer to be more low
There is a creep factor but there are lady creeps as well but men don’t worry about that as much as women do.
Famous people get looked up to and socially men are discouraged from admiring the abilities of women. Instead they’d seek to possess her image in picture or film and masterbate over it as a mini form of possessing her as an object.
Because to be a male groupie requires a rare kind of charisma. People already assume are a killer rapist because your a dude following a person or people…
There are male groupies. But you’ll find them more in sports versus the music and film industries.
For example, you got a group of fans with tons of makeup on, screaming all event long, even taking their shirts off to show their enthusiasm. Where can you find that?
A. Mick Jagger concert in the 80’s
B1. Real Madrid vs FC Barcelona (if you’re not American)
or
B2. Packers vs Bears (for you Americans)
Reading the comments here, so many people don’t know what a groupie is lol.
It’s not just a “fan” of the artist. Groupies basically stalk the artist, following them across every tour date in the hopes of getting closer to the artist and potentially sleeping with them.
Female artists are less likely to accept that from random men due to the risks, but for Male artists the risks associated with sleeping with a random woman is much lower so they’re accepting of the behavior.
If you mean musicians, there are fewer musicians that explicitly target men in the USA in that way. They do in Japan, they are called idol groups. Korea too.
I have a huge fan crush on Martha Spencer but I seriously doubt she’d be happy to see me at every single one of her concerts and meet and greets. Yeah, male groupies are pretty weird.
Years ago, a bunch of us (all gay men) met Jake Shears after a Scissor Sisters show in Detroit and convinced him to join us at a neighborhood gay dance bar. He did. We danced. It was fun and nothing weird happened (that I know of….).
Probably sexism tbh. The male gaze is seen as pretty normal, and that often involves seeing women as basically powerless objects to be won. When the groupie mentality is applied to men, it doesn’t work most of the time because of this pre-conceived dynamic.
Because men are not as much attracted to status, wealth and competence.
Women are the vulnerable sex so evolution made them value these things more in a potential romantic partner.
Men also mate across and down dominance hierarchies while women tend to mate across and up.
In simple words, men generally mate with women who bring less to the table than themselves and women generally mate with men who bring more to the table than themselves.
This is because women pay the price of higher parental investment through pregnancy and giving birth.
So the man has to compensate for that by bringing more to the table.
The sexes generally don’t do this intentionally but there are instincts driving these behaviors.
Because women are, in general, attracted to men who are of a higher social or economic standing than they are.
When a woman is a famous musician, her social/economic standing is relatively high compared to her male fans. (You could even argue that the artist/fan relationship has this sort of dynamic built into it) Therefore she will usually not be interested in hooking up with them.
You know those football fanatics that paint their torso and face with the colors of their team, and go to watch a match, shirtless, under 0C°? Those are the ones you’re looking for.
Honestly there are a lot of male groupies. Not much for female artist but men for other men? Yes. They pass it off as their “brother” or “cousin”. Meg said it the best “calling n* big brother just so y’all can take pictures”.
For music, often women are fans of both male and female artists, while (straight) men are only fans of male artists. Of course this isn’t always the case, but looking at a genre like metal which has obsessive male fans, like 95% of the bands are all compromised of men. And women artists in the scene are often dismissed and/or treated as “posers”. Again, there is a lot of cool dudes in metal who aren’t shitty to women, but I have seen a far share of men be shitty.
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A male groupie is a stalker creep. They are in no way disariable, unlike female groupies.
Double standards
When men behave that way, it’s called beinng a creep.
Maybe because more female celebrities are into monogamy and dating vs banging randos
Traditionally, women have been encouraged to admire and support male performers, while men have been expected to be the stars, not the fans. So when women show devotion as groupies, it’s seen as part of the norm. Men doing the same are often judged or ridiculed for being “too fanatical” or “unmanly.”
Many famous male artists have a mix of fame, power, and charisma that fits right into cultural ideals of attractiveness. For some female fans, getting close to that kind of person can be thrilling or even feel validating. The reverse female artists with male groupies, does happen, but it doesn’t get the same spotlight because the idea of men being devoted admirers or trying to sleep with female stars can be seen as less glamorous or even creepy in media portrayals.
Sometimes, the power imbalance between a male star and female fans reinforces a specific dynamic, fame and control on one side, admiration and pursuit on the other. When you reverse those genders, it challenges norms about power and sexuality, and society hasn’t quite caught up with embracing that narrative fully.
Have you noticed men wearing other men’s football jerseys? Those are groupies IMHO.
Probably just demand.
Male musicians are probably quite happy to have sex with random women, but female musicians are probably fairly unlikely to want sex with random men.
Young women/girls also seem to be a bit more likely to truly obsess over a boy band or male artist, like screaming at The Beatles for example, the same doesn’t seem to happen quite in the same way for male fans of female artists.
Intervention and fixated person orders, mostly.
because it’s “creepy” and “perverted”
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Would I get downvoted to hell and back if I said patriarchy? The range of “acceptable” behavior for men and women sets the norm. Women pining over a man is to be expected. Men pining over a woman in the same manner, is seen as weird and creepy. Its all arbitrary, but thats social norms for you.
Generally it comes down to the male ego.
A male Rockstar will assume every woman wants him and that ego will overpower worries like her being crazy or her getting pregnant etc.
This is why the stories were always guys sleeping with multiple groupies a night. It’s about stroking the ego more than the actual sex.
Women tend not to need that level of ego stroking as knowing men lust after you is enough.
So women would pick and choose a lower number of reliable lovers instead. Backing dancers would be the cliche for female artists.
Cuz they get sent to jail
Male groupies are found in sports. If you follow football (soccer), it can get quite extreme with hooliganism.
My theory is that sport is simulated combat, which men are attracted to because they can experience their more visceral emotions.
Aren’t they called roadies
I mean, I know many men who travel around following bands like Phish and Tool.. I’d call them groupies.
Idk dude. Go to take a look at any football subreddit. You got 50 year old men dressing their kids, dogs, and selves in shirts purchased in 1999 that haven’t been properly washed since because their favourite member of the choreographed violence band wrote on them in sharpie. That’s a groupie.
They exist they just behave differently then female groupies do so they don’t look like what you expect a groupie to look like.
Lots of male groupies who absolutely revere the anger, racism and stupidity from their Dear Leader Donald Trump.
I think it’s more that female performers would really rather not have a bunch of leering creepy dudes hanging around. Not a lack of men willing to leer and creep on them.
https://www.reddit.com/r/japan/comments/w0dy10/japanese_man_47_is_living_his_dream_after/
There’s a British band called Rockbitch who would famously throw golden condoms at their performances. If you caught one and presented it after the show, they would (apparently) sleep with you.
I’m not sure the demand for male groupies is as high.
Because most of the time the male performers wanna fuck the girls not the guys
What do you call Elon Musk fanboys? As others have said, tho, it is often a mark of shame both to the men and the object of their admiration.
There’s a reason men tend to hide their interests and desires and why fans of franchises like Warhammer or Anime are called freaks while fans of the Beatles are simply called fans or groupies.
Look up any female (fronted) band and the crowd will be filled with male groupies. It’s probably just that there still are much less female performers as opposed to male ones, especially in rock music. Also, the teenie bopper groups tend to cater to young girls, who mature at a much younger age then their male counterparts – and thus more often get celebrity crushes. At that age most boys still are not too interested in girls. So the adoration of celebrities is much more instilled into girls, who will more likely carry it into their late teens/twenties.
What’s a groupie
Male groupies are real they just hang around other dudes instead of women. Go to any college and the male athletes have male groupies
yo wtf happened here
TIL 90% of Reddit doesn’t know what “groupie” means.
Male groupies all decided to go into MAGA politics
I heard one got married to his idol in Japan. Crazy story
They aren’t rare. They are called simps or stalkers.
Because Men and Women are different. Ultimately it all goes back to procreation. Sleeping with as many women as possible is the optimal strategy for a man because that’s how he would theoretically maximize the amount of offspring he has. Women don’t typically need to be famous in order for men to be throwing the offer of sex at them and they don’t benefit from sleeping with a lot of men in the same way that a man would with a lot of women. There’s just basically no reason for her to set her bar at merely attractive and willing when, being famous, she’s going to be able to pull any kind of person she wants.
For one thing many male stars are happy to sleep with a hot groupie. Very few female stars are.
Also. In general men are more attracted to appearance and women to fame and power. Plenty of ugly male celebrities have tons of groupies to choose from. Most men would rather have sex with a hot waitress over an unattractive celebrity even if they thought they where talented.
I think that, biologically speaking, women are often sexually attracted to successful, powerful men (mates that can provide and protect). Male rockstars typically have influence and money, plus they are often physically attractive (or at least somewhat).
Women throwing their panties on stage or flashing their tits are both OH YEAH! moments. Dudes doing the same… that’s creepy and criminal.
Have you ever met a sports fan? Because the only difference between a K-pop stan, a Lady Gaga stan and a CR7 stan is that the K pop stan is a tween girl, the Gaga stan is a gay man, and the CR7 stan is a straight man, but they all behave the exact same! If you dare to say a single bad thing about their fave they will harass you off the internet!
A man being famous makes him desirable, a woman being famous doesn’t necessarily make her any more desirable than if she was a nobody
I read that as rapier
In my country they have football for fangirling.
Male groupies are sports fans
Have you seen American football fans!
Women don’t date down as much as men
A woman or girl who is obsessed with a male performer and makes active attempts to have sex with him is called a groupie. A man or boy who is obsessed with a female performer and makes active attempts to have sex with her is called a stalker.
They don’t? Have been to Comic Con? What men and women “groupie” about more frequently varies, but they do exist in abundance about different things.
Most male “groupies” are just called obiters or “stans” but are the same thing as groupies.
I mean, it doesn’t take much for a man to be attracted to a lady. Famous men enjoy getting the attention of women since it’s hard to attract a lady if you are a Joe Schmo but famous women, not so much. I’m not saying there aren’t famous women who bang their male fans and famous men who prefer to be more low
There is a creep factor but there are lady creeps as well but men don’t worry about that as much as women do.
We call them gangs
did you see MAGA ?
Double standards.
Take a look at Japanese idol culture. There are plenty of male groupies in existence.
Guys just aren’t called groupies as much, even if they act the same. Double standards🤷♂️
Famous people get looked up to and socially men are discouraged from admiring the abilities of women. Instead they’d seek to possess her image in picture or film and masterbate over it as a mini form of possessing her as an object.
Because to be a male groupie requires a rare kind of charisma. People already assume are a killer rapist because your a dude following a person or people…
Do you know what an egirl is?
Because women are attracted to status, men aren’t
Not true, check for YouTubers or people who watch sport
Women do have groupies. Where do you think these younger, struggling, bfs come from?
But men don’t advertise it the same way because its “weak”
Men must never, ever be seen to admire, or look up to a woman
Instead they channel that energy into simping for Joe Rogan or Elon Musk.
Maybe you are thinking from an heterosexual point of view.
Shame, and the culture surrounding it.
Being crazy over a celebrity is something men don’t really get. At least there is a massive tendency.
There are male groupies. But you’ll find them more in sports versus the music and film industries.
For example, you got a group of fans with tons of makeup on, screaming all event long, even taking their shirts off to show their enthusiasm. Where can you find that?
A. Mick Jagger concert in the 80’s
B1. Real Madrid vs FC Barcelona (if you’re not American)
or
B2. Packers vs Bears (for you Americans)
Probably because the entertainment industry has been more male dominated, so the groupie culture followed that. Just a thought 🤔
The same reason there’s lots of female cheerleaders but much fewer male
Reading the comments here, so many people don’t know what a groupie is lol.
It’s not just a “fan” of the artist. Groupies basically stalk the artist, following them across every tour date in the hopes of getting closer to the artist and potentially sleeping with them.
Female artists are less likely to accept that from random men due to the risks, but for Male artists the risks associated with sleeping with a random woman is much lower so they’re accepting of the behavior.
Security.
Male performers want groupies. Their security lets them through. Female performers do not. Their security does not let them through.
If you mean musicians, there are fewer musicians that explicitly target men in the USA in that way. They do in Japan, they are called idol groups. Korea too.
Doesn’t Andrew Tate or whoever only have male groupies?
I have a huge fan crush on Martha Spencer but I seriously doubt she’d be happy to see me at every single one of her concerts and meet and greets. Yeah, male groupies are pretty weird.
What about in Japan? Lots of male groupies going ham over the idols there
There’s a double standard.
Hetero males want women flocking to them.
Hetero females do not want men flocking to them.
Male attention isn’t a precious commodity the way female attention is. I’d wager that for female stars, it’s actually completely devalued.
To get the guys, the girl just has to show up. To get the girls, the guy to make the music.
They’re called roadies
Years ago, a bunch of us (all gay men) met Jake Shears after a Scissor Sisters show in Detroit and convinced him to join us at a neighborhood gay dance bar. He did. We danced. It was fun and nothing weird happened (that I know of….).
Because men aren’t as attracted to fame and celebrity.
Probably sexism tbh. The male gaze is seen as pretty normal, and that often involves seeing women as basically powerless objects to be won. When the groupie mentality is applied to men, it doesn’t work most of the time because of this pre-conceived dynamic.
Because men are not as much attracted to status, wealth and competence.
Women are the vulnerable sex so evolution made them value these things more in a potential romantic partner.
Men also mate across and down dominance hierarchies while women tend to mate across and up.
In simple words, men generally mate with women who bring less to the table than themselves and women generally mate with men who bring more to the table than themselves.
This is because women pay the price of higher parental investment through pregnancy and giving birth.
So the man has to compensate for that by bringing more to the table.
The sexes generally don’t do this intentionally but there are instincts driving these behaviors.
Because women are, in general, attracted to men who are of a higher social or economic standing than they are.
When a woman is a famous musician, her social/economic standing is relatively high compared to her male fans. (You could even argue that the artist/fan relationship has this sort of dynamic built into it) Therefore she will usually not be interested in hooking up with them.
men don’t kiss their friends
You know those football fanatics that paint their torso and face with the colors of their team, and go to watch a match, shirtless, under 0C°? Those are the ones you’re looking for.
I realize the subreddit we’re in…but come on…
Because female artists are way less likely to bang some rando from the crowd.
Honestly there are a lot of male groupies. Not much for female artist but men for other men? Yes. They pass it off as their “brother” or “cousin”. Meg said it the best “calling n* big brother just so y’all can take pictures”.
For music, often women are fans of both male and female artists, while (straight) men are only fans of male artists. Of course this isn’t always the case, but looking at a genre like metal which has obsessive male fans, like 95% of the bands are all compromised of men. And women artists in the scene are often dismissed and/or treated as “posers”. Again, there is a lot of cool dudes in metal who aren’t shitty to women, but I have seen a far share of men be shitty.
I don’t think men find musicians as attractive as women do.
I dunno but buddy catch me at a fucking beaches concert and you’ll see a 200lbs man go full on fan girl groupie ,Matt mays too tbh .
Just look up any female celebrity on reddit there will be a NSFW subreddit on nearly every one with thousands of men gooning over them.
They’re called sports fans and are equally as annoying if not worse
I read this as guppies at first and it’s a bit embarrassing how long it took me to see people weren’t talking in euphemisms