Why do men call themselves lone wolves when bears, lynxes, pumas and others are actually lone?

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Ignoring the whole alpha wolf thing that’s been proven false by the very man who wrote about this.

But most other predators like bears, lynx’s, pumas and big cats in general are all solitary.

Why don’t they just choose an actual animal that matches their “I want to be alone” phase?

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  1. qualityvote2 Avatar

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  2. heelspider Avatar

    I think the whole point is that wolves are typically pack animals. A lone puma is just a regular puma.

  3. prustage Avatar

    Wolves are pack animals so a lone wolf is one that is outside the pack and that is unusual. Humans are also pack animals so one that is outside the pack is also unusual – the analogy fits.

    Bears, pumas etc are always “lone” so there is nothing unusual about that. You wouldnt say “lone puma” because thats what all pumas are. It would be like saying “long-necked giraffe” or “legless snake”.

  4. jmalez1 Avatar

    way to much thought for a stupid question

  5. feralkitten Avatar

    If i called myself a “bear” people would have a different impression of me.

  6. a_horde_of_rand Avatar

    The “I want to be alone” phase is actually the “I’m alone because I’m insufferable to my family and former friends so I’m here ranting my incel screed on a podcast before I slam a Monster energy drink and slap a confederate flag on my truck” phase.

  7. _forum_mod Avatar

    I think you’re missing the point. Humans are social creatures and wolves are social creatures. It’s an anomaly for a wolf to be solitary, just as it is for a human. “Lone bear” would be redundant.

  8. Double_Distribution8 Avatar

    Hint: “One Wolf”

    Who wore the jacket?

  9. huuaaang Avatar

    Because it’s an acknowledgement that he’s a loner despite being an inherently social animal.

    A lone puma would just be a puma.

  10. Medullan Avatar

    Because they have been rejected by their family and their peers for reasons they see as unrighteous. For example a person who grows up surrounded by a conservative community and family who succeeds in school and becomes liberal because of their education teaching them to let go of the prejudice they have been taught will likely be rejected by that community and their family. A sense of righteousness compels them to go it alone rather than revert to a more primitive way of life. Of course this phenomena is just as likely to happen in reverse with the cause being religion and propaganda rather than education. It’s pretty easy to figure out which is which though because they tend to be proud of their decision regardless of which type they are.

  11. Independent_Win_7984 Avatar

    Because the lone wolf is an outcast. An exception to the rule.

  12. djbuttonup Avatar

    Cringe dudes like that are usually pretty dumb too.

  13. Bertie637 Avatar

    Becuase the operate off out of date and poor wolf science.

  14. MeepleMerson Avatar

    Wolves are pack animals. When a wolf becomes sick or injured to the extent that they can no longer contribute to the pack’s survival, they will separate from the pack so they don’t become a liability to the pack.

    A “lone wolf” is thus one who can’t contribute, a liability to the greater good, that recognizes this and pulls away to die in solitude.

  15. Argylius Avatar

    I actually like the sound of “lone lynx” btw

  16. KOCHTEEZ Avatar

    Same reason people call themselves black sheeps.

  17. thechrisare Avatar

    I prefer to use the term “one man wolf pack”

  18. Kangaroo-Parking Avatar

    This is why I like elephants

  19. I_Hate_Reddit_56 Avatar

    Because those animals dont normally live in groups 

  20. HeartyBeast Avatar

    I met a loan shark, once. 

  21. PointToTheDamage Avatar

    I can’t answer on why other men call themselves this and that

    But the “Lone Wolf” thing is based on factual behavior. Young male wolves can start to cause headaches within their birthed pack.

    They try to fuck their sisters and other wolves they don’t have permission to and they try to lead the pack when they are not the pack leaders.

    Sometimes, they fall in line and listen to their elders.

    Sometimes, they go their own way to find a female and start their own pack as a new Alpha. This is where the “Lone Wolf” trope comes from.

    When you no longer fit in at home as a growing adolescent male, sometimes you’re not wrong but neither are your parents. The solution is to make your own path and own way. You cannot change your parents in their established household if they do not want to change. You must go out into the world and make your own household.

    The internet probably thinks it means you pop your collar or something.

  22. AdhesivenessUnfair13 Avatar

    Lone Wolf is usually a way of saying someone outside of the norm. The US Media uses it a lot for mass shootings as a way to paint the person as an outsider and not part of a prevailing social or political movement. I think parts of the manosphere have co-opted it as a way to identify as ‘free thinkers’ or ‘unique’, but also still being scary and capable of violance. It’s honestly a great summary of the idiocy of MRA goofballs who think they are much more important than they ever are.

  23. AddictedToRugs Avatar

    Thats the point; a lone wolf is out of the ordinary.  

  24. Frewtti Avatar

    Because they think it sounds cool and makes them more manly.

  25. lordbrooklyn56 Avatar

    It’s a commentary on their status in the society they’re in.

    A lone wolf doesn’t mean the person is living in the woods alone defending themselves from the elements alone.

    It usually means they just navigate their life within society on their own. Little or zero friends and family to help them or socialize with. This is often times exaggerated tho.

  26. Syanara73 Avatar

    Bears and pumas have regularly been used as names for types of gay men, I think many other lone animals may be used as well. The type of guy that would refer to himself as a lone wolf likely wouldn’t want to be perceived as gay by telling everyone he is a bear. People are silly.

  27. temp0rally-yours Avatar

    Because “lone wolf” just sounds cooler than “lone bear” or “lone lynx.” It’s branding, not biology.

  28. Renegade5399 Avatar

    Wolves have that edgy, mysterious vibe in pop culture. Bears just sound like they want a nap and honey.

  29. xXGhostrider163Xx Avatar

    It’s all about the aesthetic. “Lone wolf” fits the brooding anti-hero trope way better than “lone puma.”

  30. throwaway0342777 Avatar

    People pick wolves ’cause of how movies and games portray them. Accuracy was never the point 😂.

  31. plants4life262 Avatar

    BECAUSE wolves are typically social like humans.

  32. MochiSauce101 Avatar

    You’re viewing it as the statement being incorrect , rather than what it implies.

    A lone wolf is improbable and likely wouldn’t survive. However in being a lone wolf and getting the job done , he’s succeeding at the impossible. Hence the saying.

  33. gormlessthebarbarian Avatar

    I’m a lone tortoise.

  34. AdditionalAd9794 Avatar

    Because lone bear sounds kind of gay

  35. ryant71 Avatar

    Poetic license.

  36. nwbrown Avatar

    Humans are social by nature, just like wolves. So a lone human would be more akin to a wolf that is isn’t currently a member of a pack than an animal that is by nature alone.

    And while the alpha/beta/etc. structure is an artifact of wolves creating new packs in captivity, lone wolves do indeed exist in nature.

  37. XenoBiSwitch Avatar

    Because they are very very lonely.

  38. userhwon Avatar

    Because they don’t hang around with enough people to learn the sort of facts that people tell each other offhand, like, did you know wolves aren’t lone and lynxes, bears, and pumas are.

  39. Longjumping-Salad484 Avatar

    my cat is an alpha diva. he has so many preferences I created a cheat sheet for guests.

    when you don’t honor his preferences, he’ll let you know

  40. Miserable_Smoke Avatar

    So it sounds like you know exactly how it came about, and your question is actually, “why don’t other people know the things I know?!” And this is all completely disingenuous, and you’re upset with someone who you know, who is having a “phase”, as you call it

  41. IsaystoImIsays Avatar

    Cats are seen as feminine, and bears are a term for gay people, so can’t use that lol

  42. Woodit Avatar

    Bear has been pretty solidly spoken for by a certain group of men already so that one is off the table 

  43. minorkeyed Avatar

    Because they feel alone, and many are. They glorify fictions of strong independent animals because they need hope that they can survive without help, cuz they don’t got none.

  44. ethical_arsonist Avatar

    Cos it’s a muthahumpin choice AwooOooo

  45. 25nameslater Avatar

    Wolves are pack animals and have a social structure. Lone wolves while being part of the pack typically don’t engage with the pack as often. While they are accepted by the pack they often do their own thing.

    Oftentimes they leave the pack to explore or patrol the edges of their packs territories to protect their pack. Their contributions to the pack help to guarantee their safety and security. Their solitude supports the hierarchy in atypical ways.

    Most men who are in positions of power are “lone wolves” they’re often outside of typical social norms. Many people are free to engage in social activities with co workers for pure enjoyment. People in power have to consider optics and appropriateness.

    People may ask a co worker to hang out after work. A boss asking a subordinate to hang out is inappropriate. It’s unlikely they will be asked to join social events planned by people who hold lesser status in their groups as well. Even if you are you must distance yourselves from them.

    The only option for social networking for higher status individuals in any network is to host social events that include lesser status individuals and even then they will be on the fringe of the group. Alone.

    You have the option of seeking social networks outside your subordinates and superiors. But most low level employees engage with their own groups. This means finding people of similar hierarchical positions outside of your normal peer group.

    That being said that requires significant effort to accomplish and the options decrease as your status increases. Some men have to typically date down because their status increases faster than women and some women tend to date up to increase their status. However even outside of your social network this can still be dangerous for men who may lose influence, power, and social standing if accusations are levied… true or untrue.

    Some men due to this tend to separate themselves from social circles and live on the cusp of their social environment to protect themselves from that same social structure while simultaneously guiding and protecting it.

    From my own experiences it’s better for me to avoid anything but professional engagement in my work setting. I don’t go to social functions unless they’re outings planned by upper management. Even then it’s usually just to show support for the community. Even then I have 1-2 cocktails and some food. Then spend my time engaging in small talk. If something more interesting or serious comes up I’m happy to offer my opinions.

    I’m comfortable being alone surrounded by 100s of people.

  46. Sadcowboy3282 Avatar

    A man unironically calling himself a lone wolf is the same as a woman unironically calling herself a boss bitch or something like that.

  47. FluffySoftFox Avatar

    I think that’s the point is that typically wolves are not alone animals and so like many other metaphors they are essentially the cool one for going against the crowd so to speak

  48. dryiceboy Avatar

    Lone Bear sounds sad and cuddly.
    Lone Lynx sounds a bit feminine.
    Lone Puma sounds off. Aren’t they mostly lone already?

    Lone Wolf sounds just right. They can be in a pack naturally but can survive being alone because of their strength.

  49. Wuzimaki Avatar

    If only you thought for 3 seconds longer

  50. toolebukk Avatar

    Because the whole point of the expression is that one has strayed from the pack, you silly goose!
    Wait a minute! Geese aren’t actually silly! 😉

  51. Smoke-Round Avatar

    I do be calling myself a bear ngl.

  52. Peter_Piper74 Avatar

    Wolves are social animals. Humans are social annimals.
    If a wolf breaks from the pack for any reason its seen as a”lone wolf”. Its a closer analogy to the human experience than a cat which isn’t a social animal in the sense that they don’t exist in packs.

  53. Little_Elevator_8176 Avatar

    Because to be a lone wolf is to run separately from the pack.

  54. Heavy-Strain32 Avatar

    Because wolves are better with packs so is man.

  55. DroneSlut54 Avatar

    Because if they called themselves “dispersers” nobody would know what they’re talking about.

  56. AdDisastrous6738 Avatar

    Cause lone puma doesn’t have any razzle dazzle.

  57. LittlestWarrior Avatar

    Well I’m more of a twink than a bear.

  58. SpecificMoment5242 Avatar

    Exactly. A man isn’t supposed to be lone. Much the same as a wolf. So when they are, they’re essentially damaged goods who have turned their back on “the pack. ” It’s meant to be a warning that trust isn’t given and rarely earned with that guy.

  59. Groftsan Avatar

    Because, just like wolves, these men aren’t actually “lone.” If they were, we would never hear them call themselves ‘lone wolves’ because they wouldn’t be around us talking to us.

  60. Bluematic8pt2 Avatar

    Because dogs are “more manly” than cats

  61. mruhkrAbZ Avatar

    I’m not a lone wolf Im a lone dragon

  62. Realsorceror Avatar

    Hasn’t the meaning of the phrase kind of shifted over time? I feel like it didn’t used to be a positive/badass thing. But more like someone is untrustworthy or antisocial?

  63. stabbingrabbit Avatar

    I think there was a comedy movie with this.

  64. YessikZiiiq Avatar

    A really stupid image thing. Fits though, since lone Wolves are disfunctional.