Expectation of Men Today:
Work full time and be the breadwinner on top; do 50% of the childcare; 50% of the cooking; 50% of the cleaning; 50% of the laundry; 50% of the grocery shopping; 100% of the yard work; 100% of the snowblowing/shoveling; 100% of the car maintenance; 100% of fixing stuff; 100% of calling/dealing with contractors; 100% of filing taxes; 100% of handling finances/paying bills…and being emotionally available 100% of the time
Expectation of Women Today:
Work full (or part) time; do 50% of the childcare; 50% of the cooking; 50% of the cleaning; 50% of the laundry; 50% of the grocery shopping; 0% of the yard work; 0% of the snowblowing/shoveling; 0% of the car maintenance; 0% of fixing stuff; 0% of calling/dealing with contractors; 0% of filing taxes; 0% of handing finaces/paying bills…and being sexually available 0% of the time because nowadays a steak and a blowjob with heels on is too misogynistic and objectifying for an iNdEpEnDeNt wOmAn
Look, I get it – society now expects women to work (which is actually just necessary for a family to survive these days) and expects men to do more with the kids/inside the house. Both are actually true, but all we ever hear about is superwoman this and superwoman that because they’ve been asked to go to work and then it’s lazy man this and lazy man that when that lazy man was already doing 100% of a LOT of shit around the house that you therefore never even think about. IME, men generally have many things they do 100% of around the house while the women tend to do somewhere between 0-1 items 100% of the time. Maybe 2 items if she’s amazing.
All this is to say, if you’re gonna stop wearing the high heels because iNdEpEnDeNt wOmAn, then get your ass outside and give that lawn mower cord a couple good rips and get to cuttin’…cuz I got laundry to do. And if you ain’t out there rippin’ on that lawn mower cord, then I’m not even sure what you are bringing to the table anymore.
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Lots of men and women have really been convinced they’re the loser in a mutual partnership with the opposite sex.
But also, avoid the men and women that want you to go 80/20.
Marriage is a trap but no one listens to those who came before them. We are just old men yelling at the clouds. You go ahead and find out for yourselves. You aren’t going to listen anyways.
Have you considered marrying someone you like and who is a good partner and who you’re compatible with?
I don’t know, man. My wife makes double what I make, probably more mowing than I do, I take most of the shoveling, we do our own laundry because we both hate it so much. I do most of the cooking because I did it professionally for years and my food is just better. She does way more cleaning than me.
All this to say, you don’t have to live by stereotypes like that. Find someone who you won’t bitch about online, and you’ll be just fine.
https://youtu.be/lMSzymeAgf4
Dunno, my wife and I have a “traditional marriage” I work, she does the overwhelming majority of our domestic work. I help out around the house when I can, but there’s very little left for me to do, so mostly it’s me folding small bits if laundry or doing the dishes after she cooks an amazing meal.
We are quite happy with our arrangement.
I am going to disagree with you here bud. It is possible to form a partnership with another person that is fair. Generally though, it takes some form of respect for the other person.
Talk with your partner. The real “expectation” is that the division of labor is equitable — and you two get to figure it out together.
I don’t know where the incel subreddits are, but this isn’t one.
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You need to reevaluate your perception of modern gender roles and your assumptions about women in general. Your current attitude seems really unhealthy and bitter.
Your relationship can be balanced however best suits you and your partner. Sure your description may be what some women want, but most women are just regular people that want an equal partner to build a life with. Not everything is 50/50 and it’s unrealistic to expect things to work like that. A healthy relationship has a give and take. My wife does 90% of the laundry because it drives me nuts. I pick up other chores that she doesn’t like to do. Communication about your wants, needs, and expectations makes all the difference.
Best of luck to you.
Yeah. So what’s happening is a cultural shift. Like all cultural shifts there are the conservatives who want to hold on to the old ways despite them not fitting anymore.
These people age out and the new generations call them old timers. This is how it goes forever. So you aren’t wrong, you’re just in the middle of a shift in gender role requirements.
Once upon a time women wearing bikinis got ticketed. Now its fine. Point being las as new standards and practices occur some will want their cake and eat it too until the new norm is established.
The new norm being men not being the sole breadwinner and that not being a symbol for masculinity. Rather partnership becoming more prominent (moreso I should say). As it should for that matter as humans with equal rights. How that will break down: women doing yard work May not occur, but they may prefer the cooking and cleaning inside without as much complaints while the man cleans outside without complaints.
That’s assuming y’all can afford yards 😅. Other things may have to occur for city folk. Appreciation over expectation is surely one of them.
I’m not sure what you want. But your calculus is fucked. Dealing with kids is 10,000% tougher than mowing the lawn. I know because I do both. Fuck, the only thing I do is try to trick my kids into picking up sticks a clearing brush like a game. It barely works, but worth a try.
Shit. I never thought of it like that. I’d better tell my wife I need to call this marriage thing off before she gets the wrong idea.
Modern women want all the perks of a traditional man, but aren’t willing to be a traditional women. And that’s okay, it just means you gotta find your match. Find that person where you can agree on your roles in the relationship.
Personally, I want a woman who’s gonna pay for the first date, provide and protect for me, gotta be at least close to 6ft tall (or taller than me), I want her to lead in the relationship but I also want to be able to do whatever I want and for her to support me. And I’ll work part time and/or stay at home, take care of the kids, cook, clean, and make sure she feels loved and wanted when she gets home, and sexually satisfied in the bedroom.
Being a stay at home dad sounds pretty sweet to me.
Oof. Don’t worry, Elon’s sex robots will hit the market soon and you’ll be fine.
I know it’s a cliche, but you have to find the right woman. I didn’t get married until I was 41. Both of you have to be mature enough to know yourselves and respect each other. Things won’t always ballance out 50/50, and that’s not the point. The point is a loving and supportive relationship. It’s not a contest.