Why is it acceptable to leave the responsibility of opening the toilet seat to men instead of women needing to close the toilet seat?
Why is it acceptable to leave the responsibility of opening the toilet seat to men instead of women needing to close the toilet seat?
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Pick your battles…
Because women can die due to our negligence. Haven’t you seen South Park?
Everybody needs to sit from time to time. Only men need to stand.
Ideally its best to close the lid before you flush.
Idk first world problems
Everyone should just put the seat and lid down for flushing. Less particles blasted into the air (and on your toothbrush)
I just go with put the lid down. We either all have to make adjustments or none of us. Equality!
Plus who wants the lid open all the time anyway. If you’re cutting it so close you don’t have time you’re doing something wrong
Just put the seat and lid down when you’re done. Now everyone has to touch the toilet seat.
The seat and top should always go down after use. Regardless of gender, whoever leaves it up is gross.
If anyone here has ever sailed, they have quickly learned that sitting down is in fact the best way for me to go #1.
It’s far more sanitary.
Just close the toilet bowl lid
Neither party needs to stand, and only the standing party is going to make a mess (barring force majeur). It is the onus of the party doing the optional, potentially messy thing to take responsibility for the toilet seat
everyone is looking to shifting blame, crucify crucify
Bc women said so! That’s the truth and it’s dumb.
You open the toilet to use it. You close a toilet to flush.
Even if that wasn’t true… why are some guys offended at the “labor” of it? How lazy when that has to be a point of contention?
My wife says it’s because when she gets up to pee in the night she doesn’t want to turn the light on and she is navigating by memory but she assumes the seat is how she left it so she falls in if i leave the seat up.
It’s easier to criticize someone rather to look in the mirror to criticize yourself. It’s also a used to make yourself feel better or be morally better than the one being criticized. It’s all about power and control. Human nature is just that human nature.
Everyone should close both the lid and the seat. Don’t be nasty
My high school health teacher told my class that in order to avoid that fight with his wife he just puts down the cover so she has to lift one too. I’ve followed that advice like gospel.
Take it from a stubborn motherfucker: this is an argument that you can’t win. Probably the #1 source of contentious arguments in the 1st world.
Let the girlie have toilet bowl win. It’s a weak hill to die on.
If the seat is left up, someone who sits could fall in. They take the risk from your negligence. Yeah, they should check first, but it’s still your action which causes negative consequences for someone else, and you should own that responsibility. You don’t drop ketchup packets on the ground and then say “well they should watch where they step if they don’t want ketchup to squirt on them.”
Because you forgetting to put it up means you may accidentally pee on the seat, women forgetting to put it down means our whole ass accidentally goes into the toilet as we try to sit to pee. One is a minor inconvenience the other is fucking disgusting
It’s not arbor responsibility. Closing the lid before you flush should always be the norm.
And when you l3ave the toilet , you put the lid back down
Women in tribe go to war over this.
Many deaths
I don’t know, my husband and I, a gay couple, always close the seat because I don’t like the dog trying to drink out of the toilet.
Just everyone sit down for business and close the lid after you’re done, always.
We are the only ones who need to raise the seat at all. My opinion, it makes sense to put it back how you found it. Also having the seat down is practical. It reduces the risk of a potential fall in situation if you’re in the midst of a photo finish and rushing in to sit.
I put the lid down. End of story. Why do we need piss and shit particles flying out of the toilet?
You ever fallen in the toilet trying to sit on it to shit in the dark?
Because my dogs will drink out of the toilet if I don’t shut it so I’m just shutting it anyway
because some of them are not able to manage that kind of responsibility
Both of you have to shit and she pisses sitting.
So only 25% of the possibilities are you standing.
Men use the toilet in both positions, women don’t. Just put the damn seat back down.
Lid down when you flush or you get particles everywhere
Everybody should close the lid before they flush. End of discussion
Everyone sits. Only men stand, and they don’t stand everytime. Thus, it is the least inconvenience to all involved, including the men, if they put it down after use.
But also, close the lid on your toilet, whoever you are. Leaving it open is both gross and asking for something to end up in there accidentally.
Everyone should close the lid when finished and flush with the lid closed.
Because women have the keen ability to bitch, moan, and complain more than men. So we just do as we’re told to avoid it.
Because they lifted it?
Everyone sits on the toilet at some point. Most people sit on it at least once a day.
If not in use, the lid should be closed. I don’t care what your sex or gender is, shut the damn toilet when you’re done with it.
Because double standards. /thread
I kind of prefer the seat being up and out of the way for public toilets where people don’t even bother to raise it and just piss on the seat.
It is the responsibility of the person about to use a tool to verify that the tool is in the proper condition to be used before using, regardless of gender.
My wife and I would argue about this when we were first living together. She maintained that seat down lid up was the “neutral” position. I argued that it wasn’t neutral if it benefited one person over the other and that neutral position should be toilet seat down lid down was neutral as we’d both have to lift up the lid or seat. She did not see it that way. I was pretty adamant though. Anyways I started leaving it seat down lid up. Eventually I just started sitting while peeing. It eliminated 2 complaints of hers. Having the seat down lid up and splashback when I peed. It would hut the underside of the toilet seat or sometimes be on the toilet seat and I wouldn’t always notice.
Because the one who creates the problem should be the one to resolve the problem.
Close both lids, dude.
It should be everyone’s responsibility to close the lid. You leave that shit open? Have you seen the studies that have been done on how far a toilet spreads aerated particles when you flush it??
Dude you don’t know?: bc it’s always something!
Why would you not take responsibility for putting it up?
Why does this read like something you’re arguing with your SO or other women in your household about? It seems like you’re just looking for validation for your own poor behavior.
I started leaving the seat down and just peeing through it. She stopped complaining about me leaving the seat up. She’s just happy she doesn’t sit down on a wet seat now.
It’s not, this is another stupid trope.
I’ve never been in any reasonable relationship, where this was really a certain contention or issue.
Putting the seat down and closing the lid are really not that big of a thing
Put the whole thing down.
Don’t have a risk of a cat ending up in the toilet.
I don’t understand what the problem is anyway. As long as you don’t leave piss everywhere on the toilet seat up or down there should be no problem. I’ve never had this complaint personally in my entire life.
I always joke with my wife you need it down I need it up! But realistically we both need it down sometimes and only 1/4 of our bodily functions there need it up. I’ve definitely fell into the toilet myself and that was all my fault lol.
I’ve heard the argument that, since both men and women use it down, but only men use it up, men should just put it down after they use it.
Personally, I think it should be down when not in use regardless of who used it, but that’s at least partly because I have a dog, and keeping the lid down means the dog doesn’t drink out of the toilet. Realistically, people should have the sense to verify the state of the toilet seat any time they use it, but I know it tends to be one of those things we do mindlessly, especially since we all go around with our phones in our faces so often.
Simple
It was down when walked in, it’ll be down when I leave
Because I don’t want shite particles all over the toothbrushes.
Close the dang lid
Because of the consequences. A man peeing with the seat down has consequences but that can be cleaned up easily. A woman sitting on a toilet with the seat up has greater consequences. Sure. Maybe the woman should look, but the consequences are large.
I don’t store my skateboard on the steps. Sure, a person coming down the steps should look where they step but I don’t think they should pay for that mistake with a fall down the steps so I don’t store my skateboard on the steps.
As a woman who grew up in a house full of boys, I never saw the big deal of the seat being left up because I was just grateful they put it up at all!!!!
I say fuck it and just close the lid. It’s more hygienic
It also forces everyone to lift something if you’re a lil petty like me lol.
Idk about you but in my house the TOILET LID STAYS FUCKING CLOSED DUDE.
Yeah, I close the lid on principal. If I have to put the seat up, then you need to put in the work, too. Equality!
I’ve never met a woman in real life who cares. If I can look before I piss, so can she. It’s literally never come up.
Look before you pee, look before you sit. I generally leave the lid closed.
Both the seat and lid should be down every time.
Because she needs something to complain about.
Why are we calling it open or closed and not up or down
I was always told to close the toilet lid before flushing. Sometimes my toilets splash a few drops of water that hit the underside of the lid when closed so I couldn’t imagine the amount of particles that get blown around when you flush with the lid up.
Unless you also shit standing up, the odds are in favor of just closing the lid.
If you don’t look before you sit down on a toilet then you deserve to fall in
Women just complain and most men take the path of least resistance because it’s not a hill worth dying on
I figure you are In control of the damn seat. If you need to use it, move the damn seat yourself. I remeber my mom woke me up at 2 am one time because she decided to go to the bathroom and sit down and fell into the toilet. Of course, it wasn’t her fault, it was mine and I got an ear beating at 2 am because I lifted to toilet seat to take anpiss beofre bed. What kind of logic is that? Blame someone for your own mistakes or shortcomings
Everyone should close the toilet seat. Period.
3/4 of activities are seat-down. It’s just math, bruh
Why tf wouldn’t you close the lid before flushing lmao
I’m a man and I always put the seat down AND close the lid. I have a pet peeve about open toilet lids, afraid something will always fall in there.
I always put the seat down and close the lid when finished. In Feng Shui, closing the toilet lid is believed to prevent the loss of wealth. The bathroom is considered an area where water, a symbol of wealth, can drain away. An open toilet lid is seen as a symbol of that draining away, so keeping it closed helps to retain positive energy and wealth.
Seat down is a maybe inconvenience for dudes, seat up is always an inconvenience for women.
Look at it as a percentage of use cases instead of gender: 75% of use cases (F poop, F pee, M poop) require seat down, 25% of use cases (M pee) require seat up. From an operational efficiency standpoint it makes sense to leave it down.
Lid closed when not in use, always 🙂
Because the only time you need it up really is for a guy to pee, the rest of the time it’s going to need to be down, so call it common courtesy to the next person even if that’s just you.
I sit on the toilet to pee when I’m at home. It’s much more sanitary and you don’t get any splash back outside of the toilet.
Because men has the privilege of standing while peeing. It’s the least we can do
Men cover toilet seats in urine. It’s unfair to expect Women to touch piss covered toilet seats.
In public unisex bathrooms, I leave the seat up as a courtesy to all guests who might follow. People pee on those otherwise. If there is a secondary lid, I close it instead.
Addressing your question, rather than piling on the “close seat and lid” message:
Because you have the option. Nothing compels, necessitates, or requires you, the penis-owning human, to lift the seat at all. You are free to sit for all of your toilet transactions. The main reason we don’t, outside of “ew yuck”, is because we don’t have to, and because sitting feels a bit sissy. But either way, it’s a choice.
The woman has no such choice. Her anatomy dictates a sit, in all cases.
So you walk up to the toilet. The seat is down. You can leave it, sit, do your business, and then leave it the way you found it. Or you can change the situation. Do you leave it the way you found it? Or do you walk away and let it be someone else’s problem?
It’s more fair of a social contract if everyone agrees to leave the seat in a down position before leaving. Whether or not you lift it in between is a choice the man has, but the woman does not.
It’s not a matter of acceptable responsibility. It’s avoiding dealing with an irritate woman for a problem they will not accept responsibility for when they suffer the consequences of not paying attention…
Pardon me for interrupting gents: I am the only woman in my house (husband and two sons). I’ve accepted that the toilet seat placement is my responsibility.
I have three sisters that made a huge issue growing up over putting down the seat when I was done. I felt the double standard was bullshit so I started closing the lid as well. Now they needed to lift to go just like I do.