One of the greatest lines of attack from the Harris campaign was Tim Walz calling Trump and MAGA weird. It’s okay for MAGA to support an insurrectionist, but being called weird actually makes them stop and think if they want to be associated with the weirdos.
He was advised to stop it though and went on to lose, so it didn’t seem like playing nice worked. I believe Trump supporters don’t want to be associated with losers, so a good strategy is to make MAGA look pathetic. To do so though means being mean to them and making them look stupid, which mainstream liberals and Democrats want to be more above that.
Why is making fun of Trump and Trump supporters unacceptable for mainstream liberals? Would you want to see more liberals/Democrats be mean to Trump and Trump supporters with the goal of swaying people away from that side?
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One of the greatest lines of attack from the Harris campaign was Tim Walz calling Trump and MAGA weird. It’s okay for MAGA to support an insurrectionist, but being called weird actually makes them stop and think if they want to be associated with the weirdos.
He was advised to stop it though and went on to lose, so it didn’t seem like playing nice worked. I believe Trump supporters don’t want to be associated with losers, so a good strategy is to make MAGA look pathetic. To do so though means being mean to them and making them look stupid, which mainstream liberals and Democrats want to be more above that.
Why is making fun of Trump and Trump supporters unacceptable for mainstream liberals? Would you want to see more liberals/Democrats be mean to Trump and Trump supporters with the goal of swaying people away from that side?
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It doesn’t help anything. If anything, it makes our ability to reason with conservatives less possible.
You might find it fun or funny, and that is not worth the price tag.
Liberals or democrats? Making fun of conservatives is basically mostly what liberals do in the mainstream. Democrats seem to be the ones that have a problem with it.
It literally isn’t.
I mean, I feel like this is what mainstream liberal late night shows have been doing since 2012 or so.
Liberals would rather be polite than effective.
> so a good strategy is to make MAGA look pathetic
Emphasize pathetic and not dangerous. They hate looking pathetic. They love looking and sounding dangerous.
There’s a large voting bloc and /media/consultant/Dem politician class that wants a return to “normalcy” which includes a return to civility. They haven’t yet learned that you can’t put the genie back in the bottle (toothpaste back in the tube) though. That’s why it unacceptable to them. Because despite everything, they still think it’s possible to go back to the Pre-Trump/Pre-Tea Party era. Once they realize that this won’t happen, then the gloves will finally come off.
I wish I knew too. there’s not a lot of irreverence! like, yes, RFK Jr is a dangerous nightmare, but him talking about autism and melodramatically saying “these are kids who will never pay taxes” before anything else, like, I’m sorry that is so funny because it’s stupid as absolute fuck and says so much about his soullessness and worm-addled brain.
so I assume it’s because they don’t want to downplay the seriousness of the Trump (understandable), but personally I think it is very important that we relentlessly mock MAGA. any time you see me say “due process means the process that is due,” please know I am making fun of MAGA dummies since this is how they define it.
>He was advised to stop it
Source?
It’s not.
Magas cry and complain about being made fun of.
I believer that was Biden’s (who became Harris’) advisors. It has taken Trump’s administration for the mainstream part of the party to figure out that ‘being the good guys’ and winning media/internet arguments is useless and futile when fascism hits like a tsunami over people and their rights.
It goes against the fundamentals of the democratic party (not liberals), the democratic party basically survives by being the sane person in the room vs the Republicans. Voters can be broken into 3 distinct groups: those that won’t vote for people that name call; those whose vote won’t be changed if or if not there is name calling; and those that will only vote for candidates that name call. The dems have lock on the first group, and the Republicans have a lock on the third group. Why risk the votes of the first group if the second group won’t be affected?
Many of us are more than happy to mock him and his supporters. In fact, I encourage it. I’m a progressive, and so is my fuckin’ mouth.
Most are simply too stupid to realize moral decisions produce unfavorable outcomes.
They go low, we should go lower.
I agree with you 110% OP. Granted, lets not put this on the voters. This was a choice made by the Harris Campaign. A campaign that thought trotting out Liz Cheney was a winning strategy.
But yes, TIm Walz is now unshackled – and he’s been going to town on Elon Musk in particular, and its been glorious.
The answer is yes – we need to keep calling them weird and keep letting them know that the policies and ideas that they support are not popular.
Why is it so hard to ask a question that isn’t loaded and baseless?
Depends on if you’re talking about politicians or regular people. I don’t like it when politicians of either party denigrate voters of the other party, because they’re denigrating their own constituents. But I think plenty of mainstream liberal voters are okay with making fun of Trump supporters.
Mainstream liberals make fun of Trump and Trump supporters all of the time now. You should listen to the local radio stations in a deep blue area.
It’s not okay for them to do it, which is particularly why you and others have called it out.
Similarly, if Walz calls MAGA weird, they likewise call it out.
Its not.