Redistricting reshapes political boundaries, potentially diluting voter influence and impacting fair representation, thus challenging the core of democratic equality.
Some insane footage from Missouri recently protesting the gerrymandering there! I think this tic for tac is going to lead to 10+ states gerrymandering https://youtu.be/RA3NmOTFHnU?si=QYVw45FNuN9k3ZZx
Look, this isn’t inflammatory, you have a man in the White House who is seriously wanting to be a complete dictator. It looks and feels like it because his real practical decisions and words objectively point towards it. And whilst with things like redistricting it affects Americans the most, it impacts the whole free world.
You just had an abhorrent attack on free speech, and he used it to float the idea of going after his political opponents and opposing voices, with his ever increasing powers.
Don’t kid yourself Stephen Miller, Project 2025, and it is clear they are following it… SM is the H guy… that is how he is acting, he is clearly inspired by it, that is project 2025.
I’m not trying to be inflammatory, it’s not hyperbole, it’s very serious, people are dying, your economy is crashing, he (T) uses every opportunity to seize more power and further segregate his opposition. Fuck.
It could actually potentially lead them to lose seats as they slimmer margins of victory. Also many of us don’t vote which really messes up their data. Go vote.
“Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free” has been replaced by “KEEP OUT, NO TRESPASSING”. Freedom of religion has been replaced by The Ten Commandments being posted in Public School classrooms. Our own military patrolling our streets. Freedom of speech is restricted or not permitted you can lose your job and even your life. One hateful evil individual is the figure head, but he is not running this attack on our democracy. The people using him like a puppet need to be exposed and expelled or this country as we knew it is doomed.
When representatives pick their constituents instead of constituents picking their representatives the entire democratic process has been fundamentally undermined.
I just moved from Maryland…this redistricting is nothing new. They just added two more districts to my old county this year and now are changing it again.
This is called gerrymandering and it’s been happening for literal fucking centuries.
It’s wild how people only ever give a shit about these very real issues when Trump’s name is associated with it, as if this is some new scandal that has never happened before.
Just get out and fucking vote. I fear it’s going to take a fall even further to punch through American apathy and ignorance to get the voting number closer to 80% of the population.
While gerrymandering is indeed a problem it is still not even close to the biggest problem for the US democracy. Politicians with no accountability foy lying. A disfunctional news media that answers only to econonical interests. The two party system. The population being tought online to hate each other. Big money in politics. A horrible education system devoid of teaching critical thinking. A genuine hatred of education, truth and science… the list just goes on and on.
The American experiment has already completely failed.
The way it is supposed to work is that once every ten years we have a census to know how the population has changed. We then redistrict to ensure that each district has the right number of people in it, so that each person is represented fairly within equal districts.
The way it is working is that states are now looking at how districts voted and who is registered to what party and where, and then redistricting between censuses based on dividing the vote differently to ensure the outcome that is wanted, rather than based on shifting numbers of people and where they live. To some extent partisan gerrymandering has always been done, but the gloves are entirely off now
I’ll let you decide whether that is good or bad for people’s voting rights and representation
If the Dems win, I would HOPE that they make a hard push in Congress to ban the practice entirely and require states to have an independent redistricting board for each state. I expect this because they’ve been trying to do this for the past decade or so with the passage of the voting rights act that Republicans have vehemently opposed. However, I’m not sure I would count on it because saying one thing when not in power and not following through when in power is the Democratic party way! But, I’d hope they’d follow through.
If the Republicans win, I expect it to get so much worse. They’re very clear on where they stand on this and do not care about the past precedents, decorum, or the unspoken rules. I expect them to continue to make every attempt to steal elections, judge seats, and more. And if they win, they’ll continue to call it a mandate approved by their electorate.
I’m a hyper political nerd and there’s actually tons of articles on gerrymandering and it’s effects. Nate silver is (probably) a good place to start.
First and foremost, wayyy less swing districts. The House will swing 10 seats or so, maybe 15-20 during wave years. No more 60 seat swings.
It also creates an incentive for extremists. With most seats safe in November, moderation isn’t as rewarded. In fact, your only threat is a primary from your own party. So gerrymandering encourages members to toe the party line and become more extreme over time.
I’m sure there’s more effects but that’s the main one I like explaining.
Democracy is dead. The redistricting doesn’t even matter. He’s already determined that he’s a dictator and has been deploying the military within the US. You can be guaranteed that he will deploy the military to “keep the election secure” aka prevent anyone in blue districts, especially anyone brown, from voting. He’ll win with 140% of the votes like Putin. We’re past the point of being able to do anything about this by voting.
It’s become rather clear that the ongoing refinement of the United States’ system of government has come to a complete halt and that our current model is simply no longer meeting the requirement of being “representative.”
No one at our founding would have ever imagined that the United States population would become almost 350 million people. Nor would they have guessed the heavily lopsided population distribution between states.
However that has happened, and has morphed the original framework into a model that grants significantly more representation to (gives more power to) residents of rural states, which at the moment translates to moderate to far right conservative dominance. Throw in folks like Newt Gingrich, or Mitch McConnell, who not only understood this but used the edge to solidify their party’s power and push it even further…
The US’ gridlock and political climate would be much improved and made more productive if we increased the size of the House (each member represents fewer consistuents), reworked the Senate apportionment, lost the electoral college, granted representation to residents in DC and PR, and so on.
More importantly most other democracies in the world were created later than the United States, or fell into periods where reform was possible and demanded, and therefore had opportunity to embrace smarter electoral systems than we did originally. Ideas such as parliamentary systems, proportional representation, multi-member districts, national referendums, fixed term constitutional courts, universal voter registration, snap elections or votes of no confidence, and so on.
The problem now is that everything is so partisan, and the current format of the Republican party so dependent on maintaining our current system of government, that reform may be impossible to achieve in our lifetimes.
In 2024 61% of Massachusetts voters voted for Harris. All 9 of the US house seats are Democrats. It is not a democratic representation before or after the redistricting.
Everyone in politics has learned and is continuing to see that they can do anything. There will be unhappy people, but they’ll have a base who is ok with whatever they do because they’re on the same side.
What democracy, this is the death knell of what we once had. The Republicans know this, and they do not care. These will pass in every red state no matter what they say about not wanting it. When push comes to shove it’s trump over everything else for all of them.
History will remember Super Earth’s contributions to managed democracy and liberty, and the Ministry of Truth will ensure that the right information is recorded and shared with future generations. Ensure that you are on the right side of history.
We don’t have one currently and won’t have one again in our lifetimes. Hope this helps.
The military is following orders and marching through the streets
Congress and the Supreme Court is holding the line and not speaking out against the king
Masked militarized enforcement agents can do whatever they want with no way to identify or hold them accountable
99% of the kings voter base is still steadfast behind him
The majority of the population is so crushed by the cost of food, shelter, and medicine that they can’t afford to take a day off or risk their jobs or arrest so there is no way to actively protest
Washington DC is militarized and fortified against any kind of uprising
And the king’s loyal subjects are buying up, taking over, and falling in line in every aspect of media and news distribution. Facebook, tiktok, X, paramount, Skydance, even cnn. Pbs and NPR are going away, news print is already dead.
And the king’s minions have so much data on every one of us that anyone can be targeted in myriad ways, at any moment, for any reason with no warning.
So yea. They’re just gonna do whatever they want forever now.
All because Biden absolutely HAD to run again and Kamala had a funny laugh and wasn’t aligned with Jill stein voters and young white dudes who can’t get girlfriends.
This truly is the dumbest timeline and the slowest hell imaginable.
We never had a democracy, we were a republic. Those tend to evolve into autocracy or democracy, America seems to have chosen autocracy via the combination of a small group of motivated citizens and a large group of apathetic ones. The choices remaining for people who like living in tolerance and peace in America dwindle daily.
I’m in Texas and my blue area has been gerrymandered to all get out. I will be able to walk two blocks from my house in two different directions and be in two different districts from third district that I’ll be in (my neighborhood got split into three districts). Go 10 blocks and I’ll be in a fourth.
Honestly, there will be increasing amounts of political violence. I don’t like or condone it but when a group doesn’t think it can affect change through the legal channels, those groups start to use illegal channels. What is wild right now is that the far right has broadcast their victim mentality to large groups of people and both sides play into the victimhood aspect of politics to consolidate their voting blocs, however the only voices being heard over the lady 20ish years has been the far right. They are getting basically everything they want but to keep up the victimhood complex they are having to create wilder and wilder conspiracy theories, such as international pedo rings and cultural Marxism invading colleges (dog whistle for anti-Semitism)
On top of the comments by Ok-Raspberry_8970 and oxphocker here, if judges allow the warping of districts under the GOP but claim the dems cannot, we have a crooked system. With the packing that’s been going on I doubt anything less than citizen redistricting for all states would level the playing field.
This is one piece of the ‘puzzle’ that needs to be fixed but only one item among the nefarious plans the fascist Cult is actively working on.
It’s a race to the bottom of politicians licking their voters instead of the other way around
It’s absolutely essential that democrats play the game for now because otherwise they hand the country to republicans forever.
But long term this is bad. There’s just no choice but to play the game right now
The republican party has devolved into a cult and into fascist dictatorship.
Long term what we can hope for is that a shift in the future causes all parties to agree that we need neutrally drawn maps that favor voters instead of entrenched politicians. This will mean some wild swings in power because neutral maps will almost certainly not result in an even distribution of seats and there’s no way to predict which side that might favor.
But in theory over time it will allow a back and forth swing of power that favors no one party, just the will of the voters
We’ve been redistricting and gerrymandering forever, probably since the beginning of districts. There have been some improvements in democracy since the white land owning male original rule set; but what worries me is now the attempts at limits on democracy – essentially the loss of checks and balances, increased impact of money to simply try to buy elections, and limits on how people vote and who votes.
Why is Election Day on a weekday and not a holiday? Or could it span a weekend plus election Tuesday? Is there a good reason for the electoral college except to discourage people to vote in places that are not swing states and for states with small populations to have an outsized share of voting power?
You’re worried about redistricting now? Why not the last 40 years of gerrymandering by both parties? Oh yeah, you’re only concerned about the other party doing it, not yours.
Redistricting has been awful for a long time. The recent attempt in Texas looks like it might backfire, making a few competitive seats blue in exchange for making a few red seats competitive, which certainly wasn’t the goal.
Ultimately it’s likely to be close to a wash. As to how it will affect our democracy in the future, hey it’s pretty cool people are noticing it.
It’s bad but it’s not as bad as it seems. Most congressional districts were either already gerrymandered or already favoring one party. The place where it’s going to have the most significant impact is California, where it will help Democrats.
It’s really hard to tell. They call gerrymandering; “packing and stacking” because you are calculating how much you can dilute your base in order to dilute the other sides base.
In the case of Texas; can they count on the Latino red vote that showed up in 2024? In California’s case, are they overestimating the blue votes appetite for “tit for tat”? How will the whole Charlie Kirk thing change voter participation? In the end, will this all be a big failure for the architects? It could just be a one-off thing if it does.
maybe your grandchildren will be able to put it back together but in all likelihood they are going to be completely uneducated and hooked to propaganda.
A candidate elected to a gerrymandered district will not pass a law to end gerrymandering and redraw fair districts, as this will almost certainly cause that candidate to lose their seat, having to contend with other reps and a different voting bloc.
Further, both parties will use this opportunity to insulate their establishment candidates, making it even more difficult to run effective primary campaigns, which would be the only real way left to dig ourselves out of such deeply entrenched, anti-democratic representatives.
In short, intractable candidates will be utterly for sale and more difficult than ever to remove, making them even more emboldened to engage in corruption and ignore public interest.
Has anyone gamed out how it could all shake out if multiple states jump in? Being in Blue KC, we are seeing our district chopped up which will gain Rs another seat in Missouri, so fuck it. Game on. Blue states have to retaliate when Rs are openly stealing seats or they will win. What other option do they have?
Ideally we have elections. Right now it’s a toss up that the midterm elections even occur. Stephen Miller masturbates to the idea of suspending elections
It won’t. Redistricting and gerrymandering has occurred in this country, by all parties, since the beginning of redistricting.
Gerrymandering is literally named after Gerrymandering was named after Elbridge Gerry, a Founding Father and governor of Massachusetts, who in 1812 redrew a state senate district in a way that heavily favored his party and in doing so made the district look like a salamander. A political cartoonist dubbed it the “Gerry-mander.”
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Redistricting reshapes political boundaries, potentially diluting voter influence and impacting fair representation, thus challenging the core of democratic equality.
Some insane footage from Missouri recently protesting the gerrymandering there! I think this tic for tac is going to lead to 10+ states gerrymandering https://youtu.be/RA3NmOTFHnU?si=QYVw45FNuN9k3ZZx
Look, this isn’t inflammatory, you have a man in the White House who is seriously wanting to be a complete dictator. It looks and feels like it because his real practical decisions and words objectively point towards it. And whilst with things like redistricting it affects Americans the most, it impacts the whole free world.
You just had an abhorrent attack on free speech, and he used it to float the idea of going after his political opponents and opposing voices, with his ever increasing powers.
Don’t kid yourself Stephen Miller, Project 2025, and it is clear they are following it… SM is the H guy… that is how he is acting, he is clearly inspired by it, that is project 2025.
I’m not trying to be inflammatory, it’s not hyperbole, it’s very serious, people are dying, your economy is crashing, he (T) uses every opportunity to seize more power and further segregate his opposition. Fuck.
What democracy?
What democracy?
I would laugh if it ends up having the reverse intent and they lose seats as a result
It could actually potentially lead them to lose seats as they slimmer margins of victory. Also many of us don’t vote which really messes up their data. Go vote.
He’s following Orban’s playbook. Read up on it and be prepared.
It’ll be even less representative than it is already.
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“Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free” has been replaced by “KEEP OUT, NO TRESPASSING”. Freedom of religion has been replaced by The Ten Commandments being posted in Public School classrooms. Our own military patrolling our streets. Freedom of speech is restricted or not permitted you can lose your job and even your life. One hateful evil individual is the figure head, but he is not running this attack on our democracy. The people using him like a puppet need to be exposed and expelled or this country as we knew it is doomed.
When representatives pick their constituents instead of constituents picking their representatives the entire democratic process has been fundamentally undermined.
Another perfect example of where the supreme court should have put a check on this type of partisan undemocratic nonsense.
They are getting project 2025 done.
Cali is fighting it, but that’s not gonna be enough.
Remember when reddit was all “Kamala got this! she’s gonna crush it!”
It’s happening again. We are fucked. Like elbow deep fucked.
Gavin lost huge points when he said we should honor that bigots work.
It’s over dude.
I just moved from Maryland…this redistricting is nothing new. They just added two more districts to my old county this year and now are changing it again.
Gerrymandering is nothing new. Democrats do it and Republicans do it.
It’s what politicians have been doing for decades. Trump is just more open and brazen about it.
It’s removing representation for both democrats and republicans. You know, the thing we originally revolted against king George…
It leads to people losing their (marginal) political power and voice; violence is historically the next phase.
You will still get to choose between two people you really dislike.
This is called gerrymandering and it’s been happening for literal fucking centuries.
It’s wild how people only ever give a shit about these very real issues when Trump’s name is associated with it, as if this is some new scandal that has never happened before.
It will cause the internal temperature to rise, until we are fully cooked.
What is this democracy you speak of?
Democracy died the minute a convicted felon was allowed in the White House.
Negatively
What democracy?
What democracy?
Just get out and fucking vote. I fear it’s going to take a fall even further to punch through American apathy and ignorance to get the voting number closer to 80% of the population.
The democracy is gone.
Where’s this democracy you speak of? It’s gone and will be decades to get it back if ever.
We need to revolt yo. Someone wheel my disabled ass there. I will go die somewhere inconvenient for them.
While gerrymandering is indeed a problem it is still not even close to the biggest problem for the US democracy. Politicians with no accountability foy lying. A disfunctional news media that answers only to econonical interests. The two party system. The population being tought online to hate each other. Big money in politics. A horrible education system devoid of teaching critical thinking. A genuine hatred of education, truth and science… the list just goes on and on.
The American experiment has already completely failed.
It means most of the states will end up optimally gerrymandered.
The way it is supposed to work is that once every ten years we have a census to know how the population has changed. We then redistrict to ensure that each district has the right number of people in it, so that each person is represented fairly within equal districts.
The way it is working is that states are now looking at how districts voted and who is registered to what party and where, and then redistricting between censuses based on dividing the vote differently to ensure the outcome that is wanted, rather than based on shifting numbers of people and where they live. To some extent partisan gerrymandering has always been done, but the gloves are entirely off now
I’ll let you decide whether that is good or bad for people’s voting rights and representation
Depends on who wins, honestly.
If the Dems win, I would HOPE that they make a hard push in Congress to ban the practice entirely and require states to have an independent redistricting board for each state. I expect this because they’ve been trying to do this for the past decade or so with the passage of the voting rights act that Republicans have vehemently opposed. However, I’m not sure I would count on it because saying one thing when not in power and not following through when in power is the Democratic party way! But, I’d hope they’d follow through.
If the Republicans win, I expect it to get so much worse. They’re very clear on where they stand on this and do not care about the past precedents, decorum, or the unspoken rules. I expect them to continue to make every attempt to steal elections, judge seats, and more. And if they win, they’ll continue to call it a mandate approved by their electorate.
r/USdefaultism
I’m a hyper political nerd and there’s actually tons of articles on gerrymandering and it’s effects. Nate silver is (probably) a good place to start.
First and foremost, wayyy less swing districts. The House will swing 10 seats or so, maybe 15-20 during wave years. No more 60 seat swings.
It also creates an incentive for extremists. With most seats safe in November, moderation isn’t as rewarded. In fact, your only threat is a primary from your own party. So gerrymandering encourages members to toe the party line and become more extreme over time.
I’m sure there’s more effects but that’s the main one I like explaining.
You have a democracy in the present?
We don’t live in a democracy.
Democracy died last November. Free and fair elections will be just a memory from now on.
Democracy is dead. The redistricting doesn’t even matter. He’s already determined that he’s a dictator and has been deploying the military within the US. You can be guaranteed that he will deploy the military to “keep the election secure” aka prevent anyone in blue districts, especially anyone brown, from voting. He’ll win with 140% of the votes like Putin. We’re past the point of being able to do anything about this by voting.
We don’t even have one now
Our democracy is dead
Democracy, that’s rich.
It’s become rather clear that the ongoing refinement of the United States’ system of government has come to a complete halt and that our current model is simply no longer meeting the requirement of being “representative.”
No one at our founding would have ever imagined that the United States population would become almost 350 million people. Nor would they have guessed the heavily lopsided population distribution between states.
However that has happened, and has morphed the original framework into a model that grants significantly more representation to (gives more power to) residents of rural states, which at the moment translates to moderate to far right conservative dominance. Throw in folks like Newt Gingrich, or Mitch McConnell, who not only understood this but used the edge to solidify their party’s power and push it even further…
The US’ gridlock and political climate would be much improved and made more productive if we increased the size of the House (each member represents fewer consistuents), reworked the Senate apportionment, lost the electoral college, granted representation to residents in DC and PR, and so on.
More importantly most other democracies in the world were created later than the United States, or fell into periods where reform was possible and demanded, and therefore had opportunity to embrace smarter electoral systems than we did originally. Ideas such as parliamentary systems, proportional representation, multi-member districts, national referendums, fixed term constitutional courts, universal voter registration, snap elections or votes of no confidence, and so on.
The problem now is that everything is so partisan, and the current format of the Republican party so dependent on maintaining our current system of government, that reform may be impossible to achieve in our lifetimes.
In 2024 61% of Massachusetts voters voted for Harris. All 9 of the US house seats are Democrats. It is not a democratic representation before or after the redistricting.
It’s over dude, American democracy was dead a while ago. Most Americans are just living in denial.
“Democracy in the future.” You are very optimistic.
Look at the Illinois district map & yes this is where Charlie Kirk was from.
One might argue “what democracy?”
what democracy?
Our what?
It will eventually set off our next constitutional congress. Or a bunch of them should we fracture into stalker, more homogenous states.
It’s been overdue for at least 50 years. Probably more lije 150.
Everyone in politics has learned and is continuing to see that they can do anything. There will be unhappy people, but they’ll have a base who is ok with whatever they do because they’re on the same side.
We don’t have a democracy anymore. We’re firmly into an oligarchy at this point.
What Democracy? We dropped that as a form of governance about a year or so ago
What democracy
What democracy, this is the death knell of what we once had. The Republicans know this, and they do not care. These will pass in every red state no matter what they say about not wanting it. When push comes to shove it’s trump over everything else for all of them.
History will remember Super Earth’s contributions to managed democracy and liberty, and the Ministry of Truth will ensure that the right information is recorded and shared with future generations. Ensure that you are on the right side of history.
We don’t have one currently and won’t have one again in our lifetimes. Hope this helps.
The military is following orders and marching through the streets
Congress and the Supreme Court is holding the line and not speaking out against the king
Masked militarized enforcement agents can do whatever they want with no way to identify or hold them accountable
99% of the kings voter base is still steadfast behind him
The majority of the population is so crushed by the cost of food, shelter, and medicine that they can’t afford to take a day off or risk their jobs or arrest so there is no way to actively protest
Washington DC is militarized and fortified against any kind of uprising
And the king’s loyal subjects are buying up, taking over, and falling in line in every aspect of media and news distribution. Facebook, tiktok, X, paramount, Skydance, even cnn. Pbs and NPR are going away, news print is already dead.
And the king’s minions have so much data on every one of us that anyone can be targeted in myriad ways, at any moment, for any reason with no warning.
So yea. They’re just gonna do whatever they want forever now.
All because Biden absolutely HAD to run again and Kamala had a funny laugh and wasn’t aligned with Jill stein voters and young white dudes who can’t get girlfriends.
This truly is the dumbest timeline and the slowest hell imaginable.
We never had a democracy, we were a republic. Those tend to evolve into autocracy or democracy, America seems to have chosen autocracy via the combination of a small group of motivated citizens and a large group of apathetic ones. The choices remaining for people who like living in tolerance and peace in America dwindle daily.
We aren’t a democracy
I’m in Texas and my blue area has been gerrymandered to all get out. I will be able to walk two blocks from my house in two different directions and be in two different districts from third district that I’ll be in (my neighborhood got split into three districts). Go 10 blocks and I’ll be in a fourth.
The Republicans are finally playing the Democrats game. Look at Illinois districts for example
More polarization
Just maga trying to steal power
Honestly, there will be increasing amounts of political violence. I don’t like or condone it but when a group doesn’t think it can affect change through the legal channels, those groups start to use illegal channels. What is wild right now is that the far right has broadcast their victim mentality to large groups of people and both sides play into the victimhood aspect of politics to consolidate their voting blocs, however the only voices being heard over the lady 20ish years has been the far right. They are getting basically everything they want but to keep up the victimhood complex they are having to create wilder and wilder conspiracy theories, such as international pedo rings and cultural Marxism invading colleges (dog whistle for anti-Semitism)
What democracy?
It then becomes less about the general election and more about the primary.
So instead of worrying about the center they have to worry about their flank. The result is politicians adopting more extreme positions.
So there’s that.
What democracy (currently or futurely)?
Its wild how the richest of the rich would rather start a civil war and kill a large number of us than pay their fair share of taxes…
Democracy? You’re funny. That’s dead in the US now.
Thank every Trump voter you know.
“Democracy” lol
America’s a Republic, not a Democracy.
do you think it will change voter representation significantly?
We’re now an oligarchy. Democracy died with the passing of Citizens United.
In my opinion, it’s all rigged. So it would not make a shred of difference. At least until they count all valid votes.
Terribly
Usdefaultism 🙄
Take a look at the Illinois district map & yes, this is where Charlie Kirk is from.
It’s effectively over at this point.
Hopefully not at all since people aren’t going to sit the next one out, right? RIGHT?!?!
On top of the comments by Ok-Raspberry_8970 and oxphocker here, if judges allow the warping of districts under the GOP but claim the dems cannot, we have a crooked system. With the packing that’s been going on I doubt anything less than citizen redistricting for all states would level the playing field.
This is one piece of the ‘puzzle’ that needs to be fixed but only one item among the nefarious plans the fascist Cult is actively working on.
the gop want trump prez 4ever, even though they are already doing weekend at Bernie’s with him and putting out AI speeches
DeSantis stole my district years ago, a power the Governor doesn’t have and nothing happened.
I had assumed Biden would fix it, but he did nothing.
Democracy? What democracy?
It’s a race to the bottom of politicians licking their voters instead of the other way around
It’s absolutely essential that democrats play the game for now because otherwise they hand the country to republicans forever.
But long term this is bad. There’s just no choice but to play the game right now
The republican party has devolved into a cult and into fascist dictatorship.
Long term what we can hope for is that a shift in the future causes all parties to agree that we need neutrally drawn maps that favor voters instead of entrenched politicians. This will mean some wild swings in power because neutral maps will almost certainly not result in an even distribution of seats and there’s no way to predict which side that might favor.
But in theory over time it will allow a back and forth swing of power that favors no one party, just the will of the voters
We’ve been redistricting and gerrymandering forever, probably since the beginning of districts. There have been some improvements in democracy since the white land owning male original rule set; but what worries me is now the attempts at limits on democracy – essentially the loss of checks and balances, increased impact of money to simply try to buy elections, and limits on how people vote and who votes.
Why is Election Day on a weekday and not a holiday? Or could it span a weekend plus election Tuesday? Is there a good reason for the electoral college except to discourage people to vote in places that are not swing states and for states with small populations to have an outsized share of voting power?
Your vote will mean less. And that’s the point. Republicans want to discourage you from voting. Don’t give in!!
Lol. Your country doesn’t gave a democracy anymore. Sorry.
Remains to be seen
There is no democracy.
We’re already toast. Redistricting is merely a symptom.
You’re worried about redistricting now? Why not the last 40 years of gerrymandering by both parties? Oh yeah, you’re only concerned about the other party doing it, not yours.
Redistricting has been awful for a long time. The recent attempt in Texas looks like it might backfire, making a few competitive seats blue in exchange for making a few red seats competitive, which certainly wasn’t the goal.
Ultimately it’s likely to be close to a wash. As to how it will affect our democracy in the future, hey it’s pretty cool people are noticing it.
Democracy? It is not democracy when representatives choose their voters. It is the illusion of democracy.
It won’t. It will be balanced by other states doing the same thing.
They are trying to make sure there is no democracy in the future.
It’s bad but it’s not as bad as it seems. Most congressional districts were either already gerrymandered or already favoring one party. The place where it’s going to have the most significant impact is California, where it will help Democrats.
It’s really hard to tell. They call gerrymandering; “packing and stacking” because you are calculating how much you can dilute your base in order to dilute the other sides base.
In the case of Texas; can they count on the Latino red vote that showed up in 2024? In California’s case, are they overestimating the blue votes appetite for “tit for tat”? How will the whole Charlie Kirk thing change voter participation? In the end, will this all be a big failure for the architects? It could just be a one-off thing if it does.
What democracy?
As an extrememly cynical Canadian whose opinion of the United States has starkly declined since 2016, and especially in the last 8 months:
I don’t think you will have a democracy in the future. All of the warning signs of a doctatorship forming are quite apparent.
Democracy? We live in an Oligarchy where the votes are made up and public opinion doesn’t matter.
maybe your grandchildren will be able to put it back together but in all likelihood they are going to be completely uneducated and hooked to propaganda.
It will undo some of the historical democrat gerrymandering
A candidate elected to a gerrymandered district will not pass a law to end gerrymandering and redraw fair districts, as this will almost certainly cause that candidate to lose their seat, having to contend with other reps and a different voting bloc.
Further, both parties will use this opportunity to insulate their establishment candidates, making it even more difficult to run effective primary campaigns, which would be the only real way left to dig ourselves out of such deeply entrenched, anti-democratic representatives.
In short, intractable candidates will be utterly for sale and more difficult than ever to remove, making them even more emboldened to engage in corruption and ignore public interest.
It won’t
Has anyone gamed out how it could all shake out if multiple states jump in? Being in Blue KC, we are seeing our district chopped up which will gain Rs another seat in Missouri, so fuck it. Game on. Blue states have to retaliate when Rs are openly stealing seats or they will win. What other option do they have?
So infuriating.
What democracy?
The only question about the next election is just how brazenly Don will win. Surely with a better % of the vote than PUTIN gets. Right?
No way Don let’s PUTIN be more popular than him.
Honestly, I wouldn’t put it past Don to claim the first national election SHUT-OUT. 100% Donald victory when you only count “REAL” americans!
We won’t have a democracy in the future. We’ll have something more like Russia or North Korea. There will still be elections, but they won’t matter.
Ideally we have elections. Right now it’s a toss up that the midterm elections even occur. Stephen Miller masturbates to the idea of suspending elections
What democracy?
There is no democracy.
There is no future.
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what democracy?
I hope it would be used as an example, as to why we stopped the practice.
Democracy? That shit is over and just an illusion.
Democracy? Where?
What democracy?
Same as all the ones before
Which is not at all
Because the whole thing is a sham to convince you that you can impact it at all
r/usdefaultism lots of states in the world haven’t been redistricted.
Republicans can’t win elections unless they cheat
It won’t. Redistricting and gerrymandering has occurred in this country, by all parties, since the beginning of redistricting.
Gerrymandering is literally named after Gerrymandering was named after Elbridge Gerry, a Founding Father and governor of Massachusetts, who in 1812 redrew a state senate district in a way that heavily favored his party and in doing so made the district look like a salamander. A political cartoonist dubbed it the “Gerry-mander.”