Working to add more money to some rich suit’s bank account is seen as a fulfulling thing that gives purpose to your life, while having free time and doing something for your own sake that brings you real fulfilment is seen as a waste of time. Its a stupid stupid thing, the only people who say work gives them a purpose or gives them joy are people who have nothing better to do and don’t know how to actually enjoy life.
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“work” has gotten humans to the point where at now. This dude wants to be a caveman still 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
So what do you suppose we do? Stop working and go hunt, farm, and all that to live? Because if you ask me that sounds a lot like work, and I sure would rather do my current job than go hunt.
Also if you got a job you like doing, how is that so strange than it gives you a purpose in life? We all want to be useful deep down, doing nothing would just suck, at least for most.
you are aware you need money to live, right? and before money, you needed resources to live, right? you can only get both by, you know, working.
What lol so you think people should be randomly receiving money and food from heaven?
Good luck functioning and having a life without the income that a job brings.
Guess what when we were hunter gatherers we had to work all day to survive too. Society didn’t invent work, the universe did. Don’t work don’t eat. That’s what it means to be an animal on planet earth.
What should we all be like the people in Wall-e?
Where you getting your food from? Think that shit just shows up on the shelf?
100% with you there, unfortunately if everyone did what you said society would fall apart.
Uncle Ted sort of had a point, modern life is soul destroying. Going back to a more simple way of life seems good, but then the grass is always greener…
Most people are concerned with the cost of food and shelter. They don’t think they have a choice.
If you aren’t growing you’re own produce at a large enough scale to sale or creating a product or art or something someone is moved enough to spend money on then what should they do?
I can tell you the 9-5 people that don’t like to be at work should NOT try to operate their own business. Those hours are way longer and no where near as secure as the 9-5 pay. Not impossible, just not likely that low drive, low work ethic workers would do well with their own business or garden in fact.
I haven’t worked for a large company since 1999.
>people who say work gives them a purpose or gives them joy are people who have nothing better to do and don’t know how to actually enjoy life.
I enjoy having food and shelter. And I enjoy my job more than hunting and gathering.
Every behavioral psychologist would disagree with you. We need to be challenged and pushed. You don’t grow as a human by sitting on your ass and being happy all the time. The idea that you should be happy all the time is BS anyways and without working hard towards something the human psyche falls apart.
Stupid or not, people need money to live and working is one way to get money.
People don’t work to add money to the bosses bank account.
Op, i think think the philosophy your looking for is called anarchism
And how exactly do you plan on “enjoying yourself” if no one is working to make you the things you enjoy? What an ignorant take.
Yep. I wasted most of my life working to make someone else imperceptible wealthier.
Go me.
I was thinking about this earlier. Is anyone really genuinely passionate about their jobs? I bet it’s an extreme minority who actually do, and would stay even if they weren’t being paid or being paid very little. It’s a lie to make people feel better about doing something they hate.
I’m kinda with you. The idea that you can spend a whole day doing hard work without seeing any physical changes f*cks with the human brain.
Well… it’s a curious thing. How we’re expected to justify our existence through labor that primarily benefits someone else, it’s a rather strange arrangement. The idea that our value is measured by how much we contribute to another’s wealth, it feels fundamentally off, really. Perhaps we’re all chasing a phantom purpose, mistaking obligation for fulfillment, I suppose. It’s not about rejecting work entirely, necessarily, but questioning the underlying assumption that it must be the source of our meaning. Maybe, just maybe, finding joy in something purely for ourselves is a MORE authentic path
Wow the comments on here are disappointing.
I think OP means wage slavery.
Humana need stuff to do but imagine it was things you loved. Like imagine education being free and going to school to be a vet for free. Instead of being forced to do something else because you can’t afford school. My example
Idk. I like eating and stuff
Welcome to capitalism and the 21st century. This is the replacement for feudalism. It’s shit, and it stinks and there’s nothing we can do about it.aftwr the US has single handedly overthrown any attempt at an alternative system, it’s clear that selfish rush people will rather die and have us pry their money from their greasy dead hands than give up their wealth and power. Without their wealth they lose their extravagant lifestyles, so we will never truly know what it’s life to live a fulfilling life.
Just try and find purpose in the small things, and try find fulfillment outside of work. It’s all we can do. Also, I make sure that I get away with doing the bare minimum work. Refuse to let the system win
ignore the trolls. 100 percent agree OP
i’ll sit around my boring little cashier job and ask people if they wanna sign up for a rewards account til im red in the face if it means not having to go back to the days before jobs where me and my family would have to hunt and gather and fucking make every thing we would own. i dont wanna be a housewife if i cant be materialistic!
Okay….. so imagine it’s ye olde times and I made shoes, what do you bring to the table that is worth me bartering off shoes to you?
Your supposed to work to fund the things you enjoy and feel fulfilled with in life. Family time, hobbies, etc.
Your not supposed to be fulfilled by the work itself. I am not sure where that idea came from.
A sense of accomplishment in your work can be normal and healthy. And some satisfaction that you are providing a valuable product or service to othe people, yes that’s healthy. But it shouldn’t be the reason you feel fulfilled in life.
That’s part of it. We built a system where people are forced to do shit that they don’t want to do, because annual vehicle registration, property taxes, fishing and hunting licenses…
I get why these things are needed, but Americans are forced into labor and working for people who mistreat them because living off the land isn’t an option.
Since nothing in this country is free, there is an implied and written social contract. If people can’t find work are you telling them they can’t fish and hunt to survive, or build a small shelter in the woods? A lot of this boils down to telling poor people to either do the jobs we don’t want to do, or to go die from starvation and homelessness.
We are the richest nation on earth with an abundance of resources. Not a single man woman or child should be falling asleep cold or hungry. Either support social programs to house and feed the poor, or let people live off the land as they please.
There is no in-between, and when those people who were cast aside have to choose between letting they or their children starve, or taking all of our shit, they are going to choose taking all of our shit.
I for one would not die and freeze in the night on the watch of a society I had no choice of being born into. It can be “you or them” or we could all grow the fuck up and pick the option of “us.”
If you support starvation wages, and the jailing of the homeless or the poor… Stop waving my countries flag and talking about patriotism. You love power, not your countrymen.
>People who say work gives them a purpose or gives them joy are people who have nothing better to do and don’t know how to actually enjoy life.
These are the people that are doing what they love. I’m in industrial maintenance, I love my job. If it was 300 years ago, I would probably be the village blacksmith.
This is for unpopular opinions. r/StupidOpinions, is two blocks down.
It’s like yall are missing the point of this post on purpose. Op isn’t saying work isn’t important or we shouldn’t work.
To all the people here saying you wouldn’t have anything to eat without work, etc.:
We live in a time where a lot of the labour required to sustain humanity (at least in western countries) can be done by machines with little human input compared to 50 years ago. However, because the rich people’s goal is to become more rich, we just can’t get towards a society where the amount of work that is seen as normal for a person is the amount of work actually required to provide the company with enough value to pay that person a livable income.
OP is right, we work so much because it is normalised to work much and to define oneself by work instead of defining oneself by what we really love do to. This leads to us not realising that we don’t have to work as much as we do in order to live a fulfilling life.
The free market has its benefits compared to many other systems, but it is flawed in the sense that it will always lead to a disparity between those who work hard and those who earn money off of those who work hard.
You are free to go off and live in the woods, build your own shelter, and hope you can find your own food and water.
TwelveYearOldOpinions doesn’t disappoint.
I absolutely hate working. Would rather do anything else!!! I do it simply because that’s what society demands.
Meh I enjoy my job.
Don’t take work home with me, everyone in my company gets the same bonus if we perform well, pay rise every April when you increase prices to keep up with inflation and 25 days a year holiday.
I rent a nice apartment with my gf, I also work close to my Muay Thai gym so I can walk there after work.
What do you envision as the alternative, without being a parasite?